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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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outside this world

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this is fade to black it's your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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bespoke radio

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math

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says yeah

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let's do this

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29 days into the new year just 330

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days left

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california and i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and throw back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjcr

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the game changer network and kg are a

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the planet i am your host jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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right before the show

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during the intro as you can see

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i've got a strange habit

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i take off

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my rings in jewelry before the show

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and my watch

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i take everything off you probably

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notice that you've seen pictures of me

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out there and you know and i wear things

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and i always have a watch on

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i don't like it

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for the show you know what i don't like

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it indoors

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it's kind of weird right some kind of

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obsessive compulsive disorder that i

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with wearing jewelry um indoors i come

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down to the bunker and and i take

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everything off and so

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i leave bracelets on because they're

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just difficult to take off so there you

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go that stuff but but the rings and and

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the why i have to take those off i had

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uh i first started to notice

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obsessive compulsive uh behavior

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when i was a kid at uh bell laboratories

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and i had a boss uh

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he was he was much older than me then

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uh close to retirement and that was you

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his name was chance and chance uh would

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walk around chance schultz was his name

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and a pretty cool guy fired me but

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nonetheless up until that moment i

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always thought he was a really cool guy

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so anyway

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but he would walk around

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uh and he would walk around and he would

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not as he walked past a drawing board

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of which there were hundreds and

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everybody with the drawing board had a

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desk and a server

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he would walk by and he would

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not he couldn't help it he would knock

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on all the desks and the drawing boards

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and i would sit and i would watch him

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you know and he'd walk around in the

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uh office space right yeah

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how you doing yeah you know it's coffee

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cup just walk around

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good morning you know and he'd walk away

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was just like dude that is the trippiest

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thing and he did it for years you know

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when he hears hear about somebody you

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uh things with doorknobs or

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or walk through a door or whatever wash

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hands and they would do these things

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it it's real because i watched this guy

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i never got in that habit

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i never did and then i was watching true

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i think it's like the aeg state attorney

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general for the state that they are in

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he gets up to leave the office

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back at bell laboratories man if anybody

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that worked at bell labs and remembers

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about shoot me an email that's uh you

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house i you know put stuff on and i

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leave in fact i don't even think i can

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without having a watch on i if i ever

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and i'll be going down the street and

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i'd man you turned i've got to go back i

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cannot no i've i've got to go back i've

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done it what did you forget nothing you

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know rita knows exactly what i've got to

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go and and put on and then i can leave

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the house so there you go exit the house

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watches and rings go on and off that's

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my thing all right where am i at

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it's going to be a great show tonight

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world musician totally awoke individual

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poringi is here i cannot wait it's ghee

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is here very excited he was with us last

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and talking to him it was such a dynamic

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and we knew that we had to get him back

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on the show he's been out there doing

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his thing tonight is the first

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opportunity that we've had uh to get him

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on with us so tonight he is here

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tomorrow night patrick wood

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is back with us he's got a new book out

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the hard road to uh the new world order

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it's uh going to be a great conversation

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with patrick wood thursday is another

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fader night open lines all night long

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on youtube today because of uh

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uh some deep fake videos and so i was

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you know i don't it's not that there's

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and subscribe to our youtube channel

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help us get to that number and then we

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very sad whenever i have to announce

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something like this james ingram

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one of the biggest stars in r b music in

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the 1980s and 90s and a double grammy

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two-time oscar nominee died today

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at the very young age of 66.

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he was believed to have been ill for

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some time now and his last album which

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with uh quincy jones as producer was

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released all the way back in 2008 10

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years ago prior to that he hadn't

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released an album since 1993.

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yamobi there remember that

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unbelievable james ingram 66 years old

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also today british pm theresa may

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has been forced to reopen brexit

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negotiations with europe

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may bow to pressure from the uk

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lawmakers who demanded she renegotiate

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her hard-fought brexit deal

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in a sharp reversal of policy the

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british prime minister agreed to return

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to brussels and reopen brexit talks even

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though she had previously said the idea

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was a non-starter and the eu has

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repeatedly insisted the deal is locked

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reading through all of the responses

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both on the brussels side the eu side

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he used like no deal

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you signed off on it that is it

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unbelievable what is going on right now

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european politics i don't even think the

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it doesn't feel right

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yeah i don't know i don't know and i

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know it was voted on i get it 51 of the

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british people said let's go well

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it just feels strange to me

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feel strange maybe i mean does it

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i mean it has to happen right

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i don't even know i'm so confused i

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don't even know how you can renegotiate

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she's been doing it for two and a half

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years

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and gets the deal done with the eu

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how do you renegotiate something in

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three weeks sounds impossible to me

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well also right now extreme cold

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is absolutely torturing much of the

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united states and it looks like

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minnesota may see wind chills of minus

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70 degrees

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so everybody out there listening to me

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now i know it's cold out there

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stay home

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stay safe and stay warm

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dozens of temperature and wind chill

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records are expected to occur

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from the dakotas

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all the way to new york state

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it's absolutely brutal and before

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anybody goes or expects me to say

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hey man what about global warming man is

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is it

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how do we

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especially these last

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i don't know five or ten years

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have been the coldest winters on record

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right

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i don't know

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evidence and i know about this and i

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realize that one of the most polarizing

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things that you can get into now

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you know you've always got racism you've

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got sexism uh you've got politics you've

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got religion you really want to pick a

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fight with somebody

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guaranteed social media this show

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twitter

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in a restaurant co-worker family member

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bring up global warming and then pick a

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side and then watch it get

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ugly i still it's

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that's a rowdy subject and i don't even

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understand it

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okay so there you go that's my take i

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don't i don't get i don't get either

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it's it's funny

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either side both can't be right

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but they both can be wrong

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[Laughter]

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that's my take

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all right also today national security

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adviser john bolton

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has threatened the government in caracas

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venezuela

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saying they had better not lay a finger

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it's funny i i went out uh to different

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sites today

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to get the prince and pronunciation they

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were all different

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so guardo guar guard man i can't even

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say it

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down in venezuela who washington

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considers to be venezuela's president

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today he got a line of credit

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a serious line of credit to the tune of

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seven billion dollars

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they said that only juan is going to

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have access to that money maduro is

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not and maduro has threatened to shut

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down his access to money and close his

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bank accounts down in venezuela so what

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do you do do you get issued a

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a

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spend it

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how do you

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five thousand troops are on their way to

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colombia and colombia says they don't

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know anything about it but let me tell

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you

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that's it the

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the

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states are staying in caracas and all of

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the uh consulates they're all staying

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down there they're not leaving there's

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that part of it the threat has been laid

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bolton's notepad was laid visible

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obviously for everybody to see you're

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doing a press conference in front of the

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press corps at the white house and

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you're showing your your memo pad like

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that your legal pad with something

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scrolled at the top nice and clear and

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you're showing it to all the cameras

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is it bolton's way of getting the

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message out with how without having to

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say it

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right well that seems like it was all a

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plant well and now you just lay all of

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this out

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you uh you take their money uh you take

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the oil money you lock that down you

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give that to

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the guy that uh you're endorsing and you

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say don't touch him or else it's just

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like here we go

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here we go

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and i i man i hate to say that i called

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it i never like

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i never liked going there but i did

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all right and so he said today and i'm

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quoting

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this is john bolton

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let me reiterate there will be serious

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consequences for those who attempt to

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subvert democracy and harm gardo

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so there you go

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bitcoin

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and i'm not going to stop

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bitcoin is continuing its crash today

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dipped into the 3300s i didn't check it

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out right before show time but it was

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still right there 3390 3380 3360.

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yeah

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all of those crypto insiders all of

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those guys that have been tweeting about

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about bitcoin and and how to go and and

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talk to you into getting in

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at four thousand five thousand six

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thousand fifteen thousand

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all right talk to you because they knew

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it's gonna be at a hundred thousand

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before the end of the year

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down to thirty three hundred dollars

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uh oh man keep holding on man keep

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holding on i know what i'm talking about

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i know what of everybody else out there

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they don't understand crypto man they

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don't understand the technology man they

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don't understand what's going on man

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yeah

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man if i would have jumped in somebody

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talked me in at six thousand dollars

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eight thousand eighteen thousand

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i do it's really starting to take up a

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big chunk of my day but i'm doing it

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00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:57,200
happy birthday to today dragon bone man

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rory graham is 34

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750 million views

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one out of 10 people on planet earth

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have watched his video human 5.1 million

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likes and the gap bands charlie wilson

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lead singer for the gap band today is 66

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that's right saying that toe tapper you

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dropped a bomb on me

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understand history otd

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france stops nuclear testing

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that's right

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jacques sherock

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said that is the definite end of

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france's nuclear testing program just

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one day after

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france exploded a nuclear device in the

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south pacific

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fader fact

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00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:50,880
stephen pruitt

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00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:55,600
who has made more than 2 million 500 000

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edits to wikipedia articles

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he's edited a third of wikipedia's

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nearly 5.7

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million pages

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right

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and has generated more than 31 000

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original articles for wikipedia

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in the past 13 years so if you ever

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00:22:18,870 --> 00:22:17,280
wondered

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00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:18,880
who's the dude

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editing wikipedia

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edited your page

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his name is stephen pruitt all right

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00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:28,960
tonight poron gee is on the show world

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musician fully awoke we are going to

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discuss everything tonight i cannot wait

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00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:35,440
for this conversation then tomorrow

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00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:38,240
night patrick wood is back thursday is

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another fader night open lines all night

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00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:44,640
long and now for you know not just yet

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but

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00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:49,360
we only have one call in number now

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new phone systems working pretty happy

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about that we're going to keep the old

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but we've got a new number 747-228-2051

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don't call phone lines aren't open

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all right

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so earlier today

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a couple hours before show time

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i got a text from michael loaming

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it was one of those messages that

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started out with dude

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00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:25,840
you've got to check this out

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00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:27,679
and

541
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:34,480
sound kind of messed up but normally

542
00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:36,960
when i get something like this no matter

543
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,480
what you know the dude you gotta check

544
00:23:42,390 --> 00:23:40,640
this out no matter how good the clip may

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be

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i don't click on it

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i don't have the time i get 50 100 of

548
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those a day

549
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:51,679
and i just can't sit and watch every

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single youtube video that is sent to me

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and i'm just being honest here's the way

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00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:56,960
it is but

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00:24:02,549 --> 00:23:59,520
this was from homing

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so i clicked

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and

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now

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i'm talking to you about it

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00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:10,000
it was good it was scary

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00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:12,640
it was really scary actually it was a

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mashup

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00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:16,000
of steve buscemi

562
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:18,640
and jennifer lawrence now

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i don't know who made it

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so i can't give the appropriate credit

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uh to it right now i wish i could but i

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can

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but i'm sure it's being retweeted right

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now as i speak about it and here's the

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deal it's called a deep fake

570
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so what i would like now uh somebody

571
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retweeted up here in twitter so i can

572
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,520
retweet the retweet

573
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um the jennifer lawrence there it is

574
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,679
right there thank you arnold man that

575
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:47,200
was fast

576
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and can i retweet a retweet

577
00:24:54,149 --> 00:24:52,640
is is that possible let's see what

578
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,159
happens here

579
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:56,559
let's see if that actually goes out it

580
00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:01,360
did okay so there there it is and

581
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,870
it's good

582
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:10,630
this is the thing

583
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:12,840
is it funny

584
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:15,520
yeah steve buscemi's face on jennifer

585
00:25:19,990 --> 00:25:18,960
lawrence's body with jennifer lawrence's

586
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voice

587
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right

588
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:24,640
okay golden globes interview is it cool

589
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:26,480
yeah it's pretty cool

590
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:29,039
does it show us what kind of video and

591
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:30,960
graphic technology is out there right

592
00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:34,000
now absolutely it does

593
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:38,240
but for me it's something more sinister

594
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:40,559
because other deep fakes that have been

595
00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,279
posted in the past were fun but we saw

596
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,039
the flaws

597
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:47,200
this new one takes the game up to a new

598
00:25:51,909 --> 00:25:50,159
level because this is a mashup

599
00:25:54,710 --> 00:25:51,919
with no artifacts

600
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:54,720
it's smooth it's amazing it's perfect

601
00:25:58,630 --> 00:25:56,559
and it's real

602
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:58,640
if you didn't know that it was buscemi

603
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:00,720
and lawrence you would have just thought

604
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:03,039
that it was some actress doing a presser

605
00:26:07,029 --> 00:26:05,039
for the golden globes that you had never

606
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:07,039
seen before

607
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:09,120
some hybrid

608
00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:11,679
it's that good

609
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:14,320
the first and in fact

610
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:17,360
most deep fake videos are pretty easy to

611
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,039
spot totally fake

612
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:21,520
and most just thought you know whatever

613
00:26:27,990 --> 00:26:25,520
you know obama putin you know trump you

614
00:26:29,350 --> 00:26:28,000
know we've seen all of those right

615
00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:29,360
and uh

616
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i almost went with uh somebody else too

617
00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:33,600
and the news got around last year that

618
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,159
the porn industry was doing deep fakes

619
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with celebrities and you know what so we

620
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:39,600
all just kind of blew it off and it

621
00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:40,720
wasn't that

622
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,080
right it was just a funny aspect to it

623
00:26:52,870 --> 00:26:50,640
in the wrong hands though

624
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:52,880
this technology and it's already in the

625
00:26:58,070 --> 00:26:55,600
wrong hands for sure

626
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:58,080
video can now be generated it can be

627
00:27:03,909 --> 00:27:00,880
released with anyone's face replaced

628
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saying whatever and used for any purpose

629
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and by the time we figure out that it's

630
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fake

631
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:10,240
if that ever happens the damage is done

632
00:27:15,269 --> 00:27:12,559
the message is sent and here's the flip

633
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:15,279
side now if a real video was released

634
00:27:18,950 --> 00:27:17,200
that embarrasses or implicates someone

635
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:18,960
now you can just say hey man it's a deep

636
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:22,559
fake it's a mash-up that it's not real

637
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:25,039
so we got that issue so by the time it's

638
00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:26,799
proven that it's real or proven that

639
00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,480
it's fake

640
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,240
it goes through the flow of the new

641
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:32,159
cycle and if you're lucky we just move

642
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:34,159
on to the next mash up and deep fake and

643
00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:35,840
scandal right

644
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:37,200
and this is

645
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:39,840
this is where i have a crazy thought

646
00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:42,000
just when you thought that the fake news

647
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:44,480
being created by teenagers in belarus

648
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:47,679
was so last year imagine those bored

649
00:27:53,269 --> 00:27:50,720
little kids now and what they can do

650
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:53,279
with this kind of software i don't think

651
00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:54,399
the

652
00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:55,440
buschemi

653
00:28:00,149 --> 00:27:57,679
lawrence mashup was was created by

654
00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:00,159
industrial light and magic it's probably

655
00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:02,240
done on a laptop in the living room with

656
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:04,799
some spare time and that to me is what

657
00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:07,840
is truly frightening you got a video

658
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:10,080
of some crime that was committed

659
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right

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and you got someone you don't like like

661
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your

662
00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:18,399
landlord mash that baby up

663
00:28:27,990 --> 00:28:24,950
if you've got a message you want to

664
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,000
spread during the next campaign season

665
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:30,480
call the team together get your video

666
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:34,000
and your faces ready write your script

667
00:28:37,830 --> 00:28:35,039
render

668
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:37,840
and watch the world freak out

669
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:41,600
and yes it scares me it scares me a lot

670
00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:44,880
think about it go and watch the jennifer

671
00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:48,240
lawrence steve buscemi deep fake

672
00:28:53,590 --> 00:28:50,960
it's good

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it's really good

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am your host jimmy church

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you can follow me on twitter at j church

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and you can follow for on gee let me see

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his

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is at porn geek we've got it up there

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right there on twitter i just want to

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make sure he didn't have the real

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quaranti

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he grew up with three cultures brazil

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mexico in the united states

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forms of music healing ceremony since

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birth

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drawing from his cross-cultural

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background and training at duke

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university poron ki

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has over 20 years of international work

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experience as an artist a musician an

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educator filmmaker consultant therapist

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utilizing the healing properties of

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sound and movement to foster our

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individual and collective well-being as

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a live looping artist and we'll talk

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about that and one-man orchestra he

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weaves ancestral songs and in in in

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oh man i just went tongue-tied

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indigenous rhythms from around the globe

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creating his performances from scratch

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using looping technology his live

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grooves range from meditative to dance

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party moving the body lifting the spirit

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and transcending the divide between

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performer and audience i would like to

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welcome back to fade to black poron gee

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how are you man great jimmy thanks for

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having me man i got all tongue tied i'm

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nervous a real musician coming on the

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show

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you know this is what's funny yeah i'm

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sitting here

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uh wearing a fender shirt right

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everybody can see it on the video i've

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got all these beautiful guitars behind

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me and i i fake it i fake it man it's

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all it's all uh smoke and mirrors

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i i used to be a musician but here's the

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thing and this is where i'm going to

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start off with you one of the things

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i've produced many albums i've written

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songs i've done my thing with very

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successful artists and and the one thing

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that i do still do today

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is when i listen to somebody that

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impresses me i step back and i wonder

836
00:36:34,950 --> 00:36:32,079
what is going on in their head

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00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:34,960
where these beautiful melodies and these

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00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:37,520
things that just transcend time

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00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:40,800
where they come from and you my friend

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00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:43,760
take it to a whole nother level

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very complex very beautiful very lush

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um and it doesn't matter if it's

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aggressive or it's soft if it's world if

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it's dance

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your stuff is very deep and layered and

846
00:37:01,829 --> 00:36:59,440
complex where does this come from is it

847
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:01,839
easy i'm i'm always jealous of it

848
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:06,240
because i i i can't do it but you do is

849
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:09,680
it easy for you to to do this

850
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:12,720
yeah um is it easy i guess

851
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:14,320
in so much as

852
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:16,240
i i really look at it more from the

853
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,599
perspective

854
00:37:20,310 --> 00:37:19,359
and so much as i'm able to get out of my

855
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,320
own way

856
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:22,640
and really allow it to move through me

857
00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:24,240
rather than it being something that i'm

858
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:25,599
generating but rather something that's

859
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:27,520
just flowing through me

860
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:30,000
then it's really easy the moment i get

861
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:31,760
in my head about it or i think about it

862
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:33,440
or i'm like oh that was a that was

863
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:35,599
terrible or i was great or whatever is

864
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:38,000
the moment i get in my my personality my

865
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:40,160
ego and i and i really it becomes

866
00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:41,920
difficult then i start thinking about

867
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:44,240
you know i get locked up so for me my

868
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:45,040
real

869
00:37:48,470 --> 00:37:46,720
kind of the edge if you will and where i

870
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:48,480
feel like the real magic happens is when

871
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:51,359
i just really let go and just allow you

872
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:53,440
know i would say spirit you know um i

873
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:55,200
would call it that myself you know to

874
00:37:59,109 --> 00:37:57,200
move through me um and that in that

875
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:59,119
inspirati right that ancient word you

876
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:01,040
know inspiration where inspiration comes

877
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:03,760
from that that that inspire the breath

878
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:05,680
right the way that that comes out of

879
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:06,960
nothing if you will but it actually

880
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:08,240
comes from another place another

881
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:10,240
dimension you might say and honestly

882
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:11,920
that's in that way as long as i'm

883
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:14,160
tapping into that source it's infinite

884
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:16,800
creativity and it's a river and so i'm

885
00:38:20,950 --> 00:38:19,040
tuning into the muse you know music is

886
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:20,960
this muse this river that flows i think

887
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:23,280
we all tap into it in different ways but

888
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,359
for me that's that's kind of been my my

889
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:27,440
secret if you will and actually i try my

890
00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:29,280
best to teach and share that with others

891
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,960
because more than performing honestly

892
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:32,560
for a big audience one of the things

893
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,880
that gets me the highest is is watching

894
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:36,720
people you know just from an audience

895
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:38,480
perspective when i see somebody just

896
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:40,320
who's never really tapped into music or

897
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:41,680
has been locked up or had their voice

898
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,359
shut down or whatever

899
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:45,520
to see them connect to that muse and

900
00:38:49,510 --> 00:38:48,160
activate themselves man that just that

901
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:49,520
really lights it that's what does it for

902
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,320
me honestly i think uh you hit onto

903
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:54,560
something because even

904
00:39:00,950 --> 00:38:58,240
with my experience uh in in recording a

905
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:00,960
guitar solo or playing something live

906
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:03,440
or recording another artist

907
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,000
when we do the take and they come back

908
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:08,480
and they go how was that

909
00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:11,040
right because they don't remember it

910
00:39:18,390 --> 00:39:14,160
and and i'm just like stunned right dude

911
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,870
that was the one and it's because they

912
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:23,359
go into the zone they're not thinking

913
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,520
about technical issues

914
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,000
they let spirit take over and we hear

915
00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:30,000
these comments over and over again for

916
00:39:34,150 --> 00:39:32,720
musicians where they just go to that

917
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:34,160
special place

918
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:36,240
and they're they're not thinking right

919
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,960
right exactly exactly there's something

920
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:40,720
else at work there and i think that

921
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:43,040
that's that's the magic and you know

922
00:39:46,710 --> 00:39:45,200
some people call this um you know people

923
00:39:49,270 --> 00:39:46,720
are in the meditation space or kind of

924
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,280
looking or even neurobiology space talk

925
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,520
about flow state right how to get into

926
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:53,119
this creative flow state kind of like

927
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:55,280
that time when people when things become

928
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:57,359
timeless those are moments when we get

929
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,800
into flow state generally and it could

930
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:00,480
be doing anything you know anything from

931
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:02,320
writing a surfboard to you know what i

932
00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:03,359
mean when you're when you're playing

933
00:40:07,430 --> 00:40:05,839
music obviously or in our case or when

934
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:07,440
someone's even just writing you know

935
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,119
writing in a journal or writing down

936
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:11,280
some poetry you get into that space

937
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,599
where suddenly time goes away and you

938
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,359
don't you go into this other dimension

939
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:17,839
i'd say you know um and when you're in

940
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:20,160
that place that's when magic can happen

941
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,440
i think that's really one of those

942
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:23,680
unique redeeming qualities if you will

943
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,560
of human beings um and i mean i would

944
00:40:30,950 --> 00:40:28,400
venture to say probably other animals

945
00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:30,960
and beings have this ability but we just

946
00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:32,560
can't perceive it right

947
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,320
uh but it's it's pretty incredible thing

948
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,720
that i i do feel this it's a gift that

949
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:38,640
we bring as humanity for all the the

950
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,760
things that we bring that aren't so

951
00:40:43,829 --> 00:40:41,520
great i think that's one that we really

952
00:40:46,390 --> 00:40:43,839
um the more we can really bring that to

953
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:46,400
the center focus of why we're here and

954
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,839
what we offer to the world you know

955
00:40:50,470 --> 00:40:49,359
creative beauty and bringing beauty into

956
00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:50,480
the world as opposed to all the

957
00:40:55,109 --> 00:40:53,280
destruction i think that's that's a key

958
00:40:56,630 --> 00:40:55,119
element and that's kind of what i'm all

959
00:40:58,550 --> 00:40:56,640
about that's what all my music's about

960
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:58,560
and kind of what i'm a message i really

961
00:41:04,829 --> 00:41:01,359
try to bring forth you know years ago

962
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:04,839
and i'm going to go back to around

963
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:07,599
1990 okay i don't even even know if you

964
00:41:11,589 --> 00:41:10,240
were born but let's go back to 1990.

965
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,599
and i

966
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:14,400
in in the music world the studio in the

967
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:16,800
recording world started to see things

968
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:19,599
like midi take hold

969
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:20,480
certain

970
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:22,880
drum machines and the lin drum started

971
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:26,800
to come in the mpc 1000 and 3000

972
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:29,680
from makai came in and the samplers

973
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:31,280
but

974
00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:33,839
what it also introduced it was one thing

975
00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:36,240
to replace drums or samples or strings

976
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:38,960
and things like that but what it brought

977
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,640
into was a whole other artistic freedom

978
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:44,560
and creativity

979
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:48,000
for and it wasn't going to take long

980
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:51,119
before musicians and creative people

981
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:53,119
started to figure this out and turn it

982
00:41:57,990 --> 00:41:54,480
into

983
00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:58,000
a new musical genre and now today

984
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,000
looping is is out there and some of the

985
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:04,800
most creative stuff goes on with looping

986
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:05,520
and

987
00:42:08,950 --> 00:42:07,040
most most

988
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,960
of this audience doesn't know what you

989
00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:10,880
and i are talking about

990
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:14,640
um so let's what is for you

991
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:17,359
uh what is looping

992
00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:20,720
um great question so what is looping

993
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,680
man it is it is a universe first of all

994
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,760
um some might equate it to the

995
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:27,520
technology that lets you do this thing

996
00:42:31,109 --> 00:42:29,440
but i actually i love the fact so one of

997
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,119
the instruments that i play i play a lot

998
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:33,920
of them and and i specifically i've i

999
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,440
really um

1000
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:37,599
am honored and that i get to play and

1001
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:39,200
have studied and gotten to experience a

1002
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:40,720
lot of indigenous instruments so a lot

1003
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:42,000
of the instruments i play aren't the

1004
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:43,280
things that you go down the guitar

1005
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,160
center and find necessarily so so and

1006
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:48,720
that's intentional um so one of the main

1007
00:42:53,190 --> 00:42:50,800
instruments i i really has been a dear

1008
00:42:55,030 --> 00:42:53,200
ally to me is the didgeridoo

1009
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:55,040
which the aboriginal people of australia

1010
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,400
have played in and it's arguably the

1011
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,400
second oldest instrument that we know to

1012
00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,400
humanity after the voice

1013
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:02,079
um so it's a really ancient instrument

1014
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:04,000
it's just a tube basically for for all

1015
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:05,760
intensive purposes you can find them but

1016
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:07,599
traditionally you know the aboriginal

1017
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:09,200
people would would make them or they

1018
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:10,480
actually wouldn't make them they'd find

1019
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,760
them made by termites out of eucalyptus

1020
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:15,839
so termites they'd find eucalyptus

1021
00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,880
they'd been hollowed out by these

1022
00:43:19,829 --> 00:43:18,000
termites and they would actually come

1023
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,839
upon it on their walkabout they would

1024
00:43:23,109 --> 00:43:21,280
check find one that was hollow just the

1025
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:23,119
right way they'd break it clean off the

1026
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:24,319
mouth you know and they'd play it there

1027
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:25,599
in ceremony

1028
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,760
and in their creation story they say

1029
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:30,160
that creator you know their creator or

1030
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:32,079
version of creator made all of the

1031
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:33,760
universe all the animals every all the

1032
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:35,839
beings out of a didgeridoo it was out of

1033
00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:38,240
that vibration that primordial sound

1034
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:39,839
and so what's really cool about this

1035
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,319
instrument is that it it requires the

1036
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:44,319
person playing it and enables them to do

1037
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:45,760
something known as circular breathing or

1038
00:43:49,510 --> 00:43:47,440
i like to call spiral breathing because

1039
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:49,520
it moves through time right and this and

1040
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:51,920
this technique if you sit down and check

1041
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,880
it out it's the original looper right

1042
00:43:58,790 --> 00:43:56,640
they were able to create this drone

1043
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:58,800
sound the sound this ongoing sound

1044
00:44:01,510 --> 00:44:00,800
almost like this infinite breath

1045
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,520
so

1046
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:03,599
i want the audience to understand you

1047
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:06,160
are pushing air out through the

1048
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:09,119
didgeridoo and breathing in through your

1049
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,319
nose filling your lungs back up

1050
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:14,480
and while you're the reservoir is in

1051
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,599
your mouth

1052
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:17,680
pushing the air a very difficult

1053
00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:19,359
technique to master

1054
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,079
yeah but if you if you do it right and

1055
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,480
you can stay awake you could play a note

1056
00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:26,160
for 24 hours

1057
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:27,599
you could you could go infinitely

1058
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:29,440
exactly you have the original looper man

1059
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:31,359
no nothing needed but a hollow tube in

1060
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:33,680
your breath which is pretty incredible

1061
00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:35,280
and now and as you're saying just to

1062
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,359
clarify for the listeners you know so

1063
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:39,359
you're you're keeping air is always in

1064
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:41,200
your cheeks so if you think of a bagpipe

1065
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:42,880
most people have seen a bagpipe you know

1066
00:44:46,390 --> 00:44:44,480
there's a bellows and that bellows is

1067
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:46,400
like the bladder that the bagpipe flavor

1068
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:47,359
has under their arm and they're

1069
00:44:51,030 --> 00:44:49,440
squeezing that and that's keeping the

1070
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:51,040
air kind of pressure going out and

1071
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:52,960
making the drone sing and then they're

1072
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,880
blowing refilling it constantly by

1073
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:56,400
breathing and blowing that into the

1074
00:44:59,430 --> 00:44:57,760
bladder and keeping it full at all times

1075
00:45:01,030 --> 00:44:59,440
but there's always pressure on the

1076
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:01,040
bladder right so in this case with the

1077
00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:03,040
dige that's happening all in your cheeks

1078
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:04,960
and so the muscles of your cheeks are

1079
00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:06,800
squeezing that air out while you sniff

1080
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,560
in at the same time that's the the new

1081
00:45:12,630 --> 00:45:10,240
thing that we usually don't do in

1082
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:12,640
typical breathing but what's incredible

1083
00:45:14,950 --> 00:45:13,680
about this instrument is you know

1084
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:14,960
there's all these health benefits it

1085
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:16,480
turns out there's actually clinical

1086
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:17,839
studies showing that a bit more

1087
00:45:22,470 --> 00:45:19,680
effective than surgery for sleep apnea

1088
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:22,480
for anyone out there snores and it's fun

1089
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:24,319
so you should definitely get a dig if

1090
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,240
you don't have one and uh or just get a

1091
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:28,400
pvc tube you know and put some beeswax

1092
00:45:32,390 --> 00:45:30,319
at the end of it and and there's even a

1093
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,400
hoover redo if you youtube that i've

1094
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:34,560
seen those yeah i've seen those i've

1095
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:35,680
seen those

1096
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:38,160
so anyways going back to the loopers so

1097
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:40,720
so it's been around for a long time and

1098
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:41,920
what's really cool is that the

1099
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:44,400
technology then now fast forward right

1100
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:47,200
into taking fire our ancestor right this

1101
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,119
ancient technology of fire that humans

1102
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,040
first had learned to cultivate and now

1103
00:45:54,790 --> 00:45:52,960
you take that fast forward to our little

1104
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:54,800
you know devices all these computers and

1105
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,720
these chips and you know they're putting

1106
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:58,560
off heat just like fire so i look at it

1107
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,079
as an evolution of fire when you think

1108
00:46:04,550 --> 00:46:02,079
about it it's that technology kind of

1109
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,560
fast forwarded and so here i am with

1110
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:07,040
this technology where it enables me

1111
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:09,440
basically to take these sounds and to

1112
00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:10,720
record them in the moment of the

1113
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,480
performance to channel whatever's coming

1114
00:46:16,550 --> 00:46:14,880
through to lay it down say in a certain

1115
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,560
number of bars you know as a certain

1116
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:18,720
phrase a musical expression and then it

1117
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:20,880
will repeat that for me and then i can

1118
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:22,319
layer another layer on top of that and

1119
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:24,400
then another layer and another layer and

1120
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:27,119
you know infinitely and essentially then

1121
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:29,440
this it becomes this new instrument

1122
00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:31,440
where i'm basically then taking that

1123
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:33,920
instrument and acting like a producer a

1124
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:36,720
sound engineer and an arranger you know

1125
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:38,880
song you know singer song or singer

1126
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:41,200
songwriter and i'm recomposing arranging

1127
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:42,960
it as i perform with it so i'm

1128
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:44,640
interacting with this new instrument

1129
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,160
with all these layers of sounds that

1130
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,480
i've made right there on the fly and so

1131
00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:50,319
there's this really beautiful element of

1132
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:51,599
you know where you're not just a

1133
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:53,359
musician you have to kind of really

1134
00:46:56,390 --> 00:46:55,200
understand sound engineering to do it

1135
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:56,400
well i mean there's you could do it

1136
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:58,720
whatever but to do it well you really

1137
00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:01,119
got to know how to mic things how to eq

1138
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:02,480
things how to compress things how to

1139
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:03,359
make it

1140
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:05,440
shine so that when you're up there that

1141
00:47:08,790 --> 00:47:06,880
actually translates and people aren't

1142
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,800
like my goal whenever i'm doing this by

1143
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:10,480
the way is to really have the technology

1144
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,160
almost be invisible like i don't want

1145
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:14,079
people even really to notice that that's

1146
00:47:16,710 --> 00:47:15,119
happening a lot of people are all like

1147
00:47:18,710 --> 00:47:16,720
oh you're playing with backing tracks

1148
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:18,720
and i'm like no actually i made all that

1149
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,480
um and so it's a really interesting

1150
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:22,400
thing for me is like because for me the

1151
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:23,520
most important thing is the connection

1152
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,680
to the audience you know and really in

1153
00:47:29,030 --> 00:47:27,359
connection to source and so if i'm being

1154
00:47:30,390 --> 00:47:29,040
that channel like i was talking about

1155
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,400
letting that river move through me then

1156
00:47:34,550 --> 00:47:32,640
the technology is just i'm using this

1157
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:34,560
and you know this kind of evolution of

1158
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,800
fire to weave these instruments you know

1159
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:38,480
from our ancestors from all these

1160
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:40,319
indigenous all our first nations all the

1161
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:41,760
peoples that we all come from wherever

1162
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:43,760
we came from and then bringing that into

1163
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:45,920
the now into the present moment to help

1164
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:47,760
people kind of be more in the present

1165
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:48,800
and that's really i think where the

1166
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:51,040
magic's at so saluting for me is is

1167
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,880
almost a spiritual practice i could say

1168
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:54,640
i guess when i think about it as i say

1169
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,640
this to you you know it's it's really an

1170
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:58,319
invitation of how to

1171
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:00,480
how to work with with the elements you

1172
00:48:04,829 --> 00:48:02,640
know and to bring them into this this

1173
00:48:07,270 --> 00:48:04,839
really fresh way in the present

1174
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:07,280
moment well let me let me jump in i'm

1175
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:09,200
going to ask you a couple of difficult

1176
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,920
questions but that that are honest

1177
00:48:15,510 --> 00:48:13,040
questions

1178
00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:15,520
did you start looping because you

1179
00:48:19,030 --> 00:48:17,760
couldn't find other musicians to play

1180
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:19,040
with

1181
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:21,599
right you know what i'm asking right

1182
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:24,240
absolutely absolutely so so let me tell

1183
00:48:29,030 --> 00:48:26,400
you that quick story it's hilarious

1184
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:29,040
so a dear friend of mine and musical

1185
00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,040
partner and brother his name's eric zang

1186
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:33,359
and um we and he and i were in a duo we

1187
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:35,280
had a world music kind of

1188
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:37,920
duo band and we did it all we still used

1189
00:48:41,349 --> 00:48:39,599
ableton live in the shows but for

1190
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:41,359
effects and stuff but we only use it as

1191
00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:43,839
a mixer and then we would basically play

1192
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:45,440
all these instruments live he's also a

1193
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:47,119
multi-instrumentalist incredible master

1194
00:48:50,950 --> 00:48:49,119
musician and so we would just like

1195
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:50,960
create the band right there with all our

1196
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:54,000
limbs holding it down no looping and and

1197
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:55,839
basically what happened was eric had to

1198
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:57,520
lea he decided to go on sabbatical he

1199
00:49:00,790 --> 00:48:59,200
wanted to go back to turkey and study

1200
00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:00,800
some of the instruments that he's he's

1201
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:03,040
an amazing player on and so he had to

1202
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:05,119
leave and so he left and kind of i was

1203
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:07,040
there kind of at this like okay what do

1204
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:09,040
i do now and sure enough i get this call

1205
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:10,880
for this gig and it's this big gig down

1206
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:12,640
at desert botanical gardens in phoenix

1207
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:15,040
and pays really well and it's a

1208
00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:17,680
major gig like 21 nights in a row right

1209
00:49:20,309 --> 00:49:19,200
and i was like oh man i got to do this

1210
00:49:22,549 --> 00:49:20,319
gig and they're like yeah we want to

1211
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:22,559
book you um can you do this and i'm like

1212
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:24,880
well you know let me see who i can book

1213
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:26,800
who i can get to do it with me and

1214
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,240
they're like oh no no no we just want

1215
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,240
you and i was like you just want me to

1216
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:32,880
do it and they're like yeah and and so i

1217
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:34,480
literally had to think about how am i

1218
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:36,319
going to play for 21 nights in a row

1219
00:49:40,549 --> 00:49:38,319
four hours a night two thousand people

1220
00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:40,559
walking through this this gardens right

1221
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:42,800
and keep my vocal cords alive and like

1222
00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:43,920
you know through the winter right

1223
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:46,240
december and i'm like what am i gonna do

1224
00:49:50,069 --> 00:49:48,559
oh sh you know so then literally i was

1225
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:50,079
like i gotta figure out this looping

1226
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:51,760
thing i'd see like it's the only thing i

1227
00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:53,440
thought so i literally took the credit

1228
00:49:58,470 --> 00:49:55,280
card went down bought the you know what

1229
00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:58,480
did you buy what do you use well the

1230
00:50:02,470 --> 00:50:00,880
first pedal i got for a looper i looked

1231
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:02,480
everywhere high and low but the most

1232
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:04,880
robust pedal to date that i found that

1233
00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:08,240
is a of build quality um

1234
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:10,559
you know decent sound not great sound is

1235
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:13,280
the the boss rc 300 yep it's it's a

1236
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:14,720
three you know it has three loopers

1237
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:16,800
basically built into one and a basic

1238
00:50:20,950 --> 00:50:18,640
little like mixer interface and but it's

1239
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:20,960
very simple and it kind of just does

1240
00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,880
what it does and it does it you know

1241
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,880
well mostly reliable i've definitely

1242
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:27,359
pushed its limits and and i'm actually

1243
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:28,880
actively right now as we speak like

1244
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:30,960
tonight before i got on this call eric's

1245
00:50:33,510 --> 00:50:32,240
here and we're actually working on my

1246
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:33,520
new rig which is going to be using

1247
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,960
ableton live

1248
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,400
it's a whole other store we can get into

1249
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:37,839
if you like but i'm working on a

1250
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,200
prototype with this other guy who's

1251
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,359
designing a new midi controller that can

1252
00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:43,440
control ableton just like hardware so

1253
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:45,280
it's it's kind of revolutionary with no

1254
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:48,960
do with no delays with no delay see

1255
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:51,760
now okay so for the audience uh let me

1256
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:54,640
simplify this a little bit

1257
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:57,599
which is this um so

1258
00:51:02,069 --> 00:51:00,160
what uh porangi does

1259
00:51:03,349 --> 00:51:02,079
is he'll play

1260
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:03,359
some music

1261
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,559
he'll hit

1262
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:07,040
a record button it'll be i'm assuming

1263
00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:09,760
it's a foot switch he hits that

1264
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,119
it starts to record he gets to the end

1265
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:14,880
of the

1266
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:17,520
cycle or bar or the measure

1267
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:20,480
he'll hit the button and stop recording

1268
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,800
and then it'll start playing over and

1269
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:24,960
that plays in a loop every time it gets

1270
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:26,960
to the end it starts over

1271
00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:29,359
then he is able to go to the next

1272
00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:31,839
section play a different instrument or

1273
00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:34,640
the same instrument play and accompany

1274
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:37,359
that which he just recorded

1275
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:39,520
hit the foot switch again start

1276
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:42,800
recording over that and now and get to

1277
00:51:45,349 --> 00:51:43,760
the end

1278
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:45,359
stop recording

1279
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:47,359
switch an instrument now you're hearing

1280
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:50,480
two of him playing against each other

1281
00:51:54,309 --> 00:51:52,079
and then he can move on and then

1282
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:54,319
continue the layer

1283
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:57,520
and and so you have a complete band in

1284
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:58,800
the end

1285
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,040
and if you if you do it right you can

1286
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:03,119
have as many loops playing on top of

1287
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:06,000
each other as you want and it turns into

1288
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:07,680
this this this orchestra this

1289
00:52:11,910 --> 00:52:10,960
multi-piece band and that's what looping

1290
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:11,920
is

1291
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:14,720
um and so you're hoping now okay uh

1292
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:16,640
before we get to the break

1293
00:52:23,589 --> 00:52:20,319
how long is a standard uh

1294
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:23,599
uh arrangement for you live

1295
00:52:27,910 --> 00:52:26,240
oh gosh um it really can vary but i

1296
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:27,920
would say anywhere from five minutes on

1297
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:30,000
the short end anywhere to i mean i do

1298
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,800
almost like a dj set where i can mix

1299
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:34,400
kind of take one element that keeps

1300
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:36,079
going and then switch into other ones

1301
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:38,160
and build into a whole new song right

1302
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:40,160
so it's kind of seamless so i i create

1303
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:41,760
like ecstatic dance journeys you know

1304
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:43,599
for these for festivals and things like

1305
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:45,280
that where i'll play right up next to

1306
00:52:48,549 --> 00:52:46,800
djs and they'll be like what you just

1307
00:52:51,109 --> 00:52:48,559
did that all live i'm like yeah that's

1308
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:51,119
so technically not even pause

1309
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:52,960
yeah i can just create exactly and just

1310
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:55,119
kind of keep layering and morphing the

1311
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:57,200
sounds and changing instruments so that

1312
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:58,960
just one piece goes into the next yeah

1313
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:01,280
change the the feel go from like a 4 4

1314
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:03,359
field to like a 6 8 you know and give it

1315
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:05,599
like a triplet or more tribal feel go

1316
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:07,760
into yeah and go into an ambient thing

1317
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:10,079
breakdown it's kind of it's amazing it's

1318
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:12,480
like sonic plato if you will oh it's

1319
00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:14,960
totally that totally that and

1320
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:17,200
it's also reflective of your mood too as

1321
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:20,480
well going into the performance wherever

1322
00:53:24,069 --> 00:53:22,480
you are in that head space is where this

1323
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:24,079
is gonna go and it will change

1324
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:26,640
organically from night to night now okay

1325
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:29,520
now here's the next difficult question

1326
00:53:35,589 --> 00:53:33,040
could you play in a band now

1327
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,599
do you care about that i mean you know i

1328
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:37,200
i'd love i love playing with other

1329
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:38,640
musicians i mean there's there's one

1330
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:40,160
thing it's like it's like looping is

1331
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:42,800
amazing and there is no substitute for

1332
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:44,880
having a freaking band of amazing

1333
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:47,119
players who are have big ears and are

1334
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,720
all really paying attention and can like

1335
00:53:53,829 --> 00:53:50,800
go with you now i will say this i i

1336
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:53,839
directed a 10 piece brazilian band for

1337
00:53:58,790 --> 00:53:56,800
gosh 9 10 years so i i've definitely

1338
00:54:00,870 --> 00:53:58,800
i've put in my time directing and

1339
00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:00,880
running bands i've taught big community

1340
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:03,040
groups with batu kada and like brazilian

1341
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:04,640
ensembles because i've taught that for

1342
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:06,960
many years as a percussion and and i

1343
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,880
tell you what it's it's amazing i mean

1344
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:10,559
the energy when i've got all those

1345
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:12,800
players and we're just tight and ripping

1346
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:14,640
through music and beats and whole

1347
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:16,240
audience is freaking out like there's

1348
00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:18,880
just something that you never can i mean

1349
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:20,800
as much as the looping is amazing like i

1350
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,079
can create some big sounds and

1351
00:54:26,069 --> 00:54:24,000
definitely big festival systems like

1352
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:26,079
you're not missing the band but

1353
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:27,440
there's some there's something about

1354
00:54:31,589 --> 00:54:29,040
like having all those plays now but

1355
00:54:33,430 --> 00:54:31,599
you're saying no is what you're saying

1356
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:33,440
you don't need to you don't need to go

1357
00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:34,880
and play with the band you got your

1358
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:38,240
yayas out it's okay to say it no no

1359
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,160
we'll check it out let me just say this

1360
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,000
here's the caveat right right here's the

1361
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:44,720
catch is that is that when i had my big

1362
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:46,160
band right and i'm playing with these

1363
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:48,160
guys if because i'm

1364
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:50,160
i love improvisation you know i live

1365
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:51,520
like bobby mcferrin i don't know if you

1366
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:53,359
know that guy oh absolutely

1367
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:56,240
yeah so so bobby's a huge mentor of mine

1368
00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:57,839
and a friend and you know i've gotten to

1369
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:00,000
go and study with him actually um and

1370
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:02,400
he's he's like i'm all about

1371
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:03,839
improvisation he's been a real

1372
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,760
inspiration for that for me and so like

1373
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:07,440
i hate to do things that i do every

1374
00:55:11,510 --> 00:55:08,880
night like i don't want to repeat stuff

1375
00:55:13,030 --> 00:55:11,520
man it's like for me that's dead and so

1376
00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:13,040
you got to understand so i used to

1377
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:14,720
rehearse this band right and everyone

1378
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:16,000
knew all these pieces and all these

1379
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licks and all the breaks and stuff but

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then i'd get on stage and i wanted i'd

1381
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:22,240
surprise everybody and they'd all be

1382
00:55:26,790 --> 00:55:24,400
like oh crap you know porangi is gonna

1383
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:26,800
help you know he's he's doing that thing

1384
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:28,880
right watch their faces get a little

1385
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,119
like oh no now what so everyone's like

1386
00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:33,040
eyes are on me and now the thing is is

1387
00:55:36,470 --> 00:55:34,720
like with a big band it's like you're

1388
00:55:37,990 --> 00:55:36,480
trying to hang a hard left with like an

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00:55:39,829 --> 00:55:38,000
aircraft carrier you know what i'm

1390
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:39,839
saying yeah and so you you got to really

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00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:41,359
make sure okay everybody are you like

1392
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:43,200
you ready here we go like and you know

1393
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,640
what i mean you try to keep all the no

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00:55:48,390 --> 00:55:46,400
one from falling off the aircraft

1395
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:48,400
carriers are turning now when i'm

1396
00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:50,079
looping like what i do is like i can

1397
00:55:53,990 --> 00:55:52,400
really respond man to the energy in the

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00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:54,000
audience so if i see the crowd as

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00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:55,680
feeling something or something's just

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00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:57,359
going you know i need to make a hard

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00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:59,680
turn or change something i can just do

1402
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:01,920
that and it's so fast and i can respond

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00:56:05,910 --> 00:56:04,559
to the energy so much faster than i can

1404
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,920
than if i were in a band and i think

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00:56:09,670 --> 00:56:07,680
that's something that i was able to do

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00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:09,680
in a duo with my with my brother my

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00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,119
friend eric zang i was telling you about

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00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:13,440
because he has huge ears and he's just

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00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:15,680
intuitive like that but it's rare you

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00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:18,079
can find guys that can all hang on when

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00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,280
you're when you're moving like that if

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00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:21,119
that makes sense so that's that's kind

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00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:22,640
of my dance with it if that if that

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00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:24,880
makes sense now i've we've got about uh

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00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:27,440
90 seconds before the break now what

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00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:30,799
about uh do you have

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00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:32,880
like a hit song

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00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,280
in that do you have a song that people

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00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:37,440
expect to hear from you

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00:56:43,589 --> 00:56:40,720
and that is in some kind of

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00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:43,599
you know format an idea going in with

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00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,599
with written lyrics and

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00:56:50,069 --> 00:56:47,760
and and and and the melody that is

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00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,349
yeah yes and no i would almost say more

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00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:55,680
no now like i i'll do a couple like

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00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:57,200
little covers like things that people

1427
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:58,400
are a little more familiar with every

1428
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,760
once in a while bust out something like

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00:57:03,030 --> 00:57:01,280
that just because people need that

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00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:03,040
sometimes to get like oh you know okay

1431
00:57:07,750 --> 00:57:05,200
this isn't too foreign to me but free

1432
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:07,760
bird do they ever yeah i've definitely

1433
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:10,160
had guys ask for free breakfast

1434
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,960
oh man but i definitely i always man my

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00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:14,720
thing is really letting it be channeled

1436
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:16,720
and let it just be really fresh so

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00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:18,000
almost to the point where it's like i

1438
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:20,079
want the audience to really create it

1439
00:57:23,829 --> 00:57:21,359
with me it's really about the

1440
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:23,839
co-creation and not like a spectator

1441
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:25,920
sport if that makes sense like surely

1442
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,520
and i and i tell people that i'll like

1443
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:29,040
right in the middle i'll be like okay

1444
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:30,319
i'm going to show you guys a hand clap

1445
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:32,160
help me out here or i'll teach people

1446
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:33,680
like a certain how to make a sound with

1447
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:35,680
their mouth or whatever and i'll i'll

1448
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:38,160
loop that i'll get that in the sound so

1449
00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:40,079
it's part of like what generates this

1450
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:42,559
new song do you play do you play any

1451
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:43,599
guitar

1452
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:48,960
more kind of like classical style um not

1453
00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:51,200
so much electric but but yeah no i love

1454
00:57:54,549 --> 00:57:53,040
guitar although i honestly i leave it at

1455
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,559
home nowadays because

1456
00:57:58,390 --> 00:57:56,480
with all the gear that i already bring

1457
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:58,400
the charango ends up being my go-to

1458
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:59,839
because it's so small and it can go on

1459
00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:00,880
the plane

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00:58:04,549 --> 00:58:02,640
right right right right

1461
00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:04,559
yeah it's practical kind of thing

1462
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:06,799
so well let's take a break right here

1463
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:09,359
this is okay we got the music side out

1464
00:58:14,150 --> 00:58:11,520
we'll don't worry everybody they're

1465
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,160
hoping that i'm done talking about music

1466
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:16,640
you should see uh they are literally

1467
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:19,359
tweeting pictures of the rc 300 right

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00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:21,119
now the boss

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00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:23,599
is funny this is fade to black i'm your

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host jimmy church our guest tonight part

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on gee and we are talking music but

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00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:29,520
we're going to talk about e.t we're

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00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,720
going to talk about contact we're going

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00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,640
to talk about disclosure we're going to

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00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:34,720
talk about what it's like to be woke in

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00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:37,040
2019 like he is

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00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:40,720
and and how how all of us can affect

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00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:42,720
change on this planet

1479
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,079
it's going to be a great conversation

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00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:46,240
tonight stay right there

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00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:47,440
i'll be right back after this short

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church

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i guess tonight for on geek

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world musician awoke we've got a lot to

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01:04:37,510 --> 01:04:34,960
talk about tonight

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01:04:41,029 --> 01:04:37,520
i do want to say that uh in my little

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01:04:43,670 --> 01:04:41,039
opening uh rant tonight uh or at the

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01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:43,680
beginning top of the show i mentioned uh

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my boss at bell labs a chance schultz

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01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:49,200
and you never know who's listening uh to

1608
01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:51,440
the show i got an email from diane

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01:04:57,109 --> 01:04:54,799
and she sent me his obituary and there

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01:04:58,549 --> 01:04:57,119
it is right there chance lived to the

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age of 83

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passed away in 2013

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and right here uh in his obituary it

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says that he was a drafting supervisor

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at bell labs at t from 1956 to 1985 so

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he retired i thought that he would

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01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:16,720
uh right after i left uh bell labs but

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01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:18,960
there it is right there chance schultz

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01:05:23,670 --> 01:05:21,280
thank you diane for sending that to me

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uh and there you go see i respond to

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email i even do it during the show so

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01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:28,960
porn if you write me an email right now

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i might write you back during the show

1624
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during the show that's like ultimate

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multitasking right there yeah you know i

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i love it so much the audience is so big

1627
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and uh i really i really you never know

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01:05:49,109 --> 01:05:45,200
who's listening out there right you just

1629
01:05:51,589 --> 01:05:49,119
never know like right now if you mention

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your eighth grade music teacher right

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now on the air

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i'm gonna get email about it to to

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forward to you i knew her right

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you know well you know you were saying

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people were already messaging about the

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rc300 let me tell you guys

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you should look up this guy look up data

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looper data looper um that's the

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prototype that i'm working on he just

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did an indiegogo that was super

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successful and he's making these pedals

1642
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:17,680
now that we can control ableton like a

1643
01:06:22,309 --> 01:06:20,240
hardware looper it's it's revolutionary

1644
01:06:23,589 --> 01:06:22,319
so it that's the cutting edge basically

1645
01:06:25,670 --> 01:06:23,599
so if anyone wants to see something

1646
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,680
that's really badass i really recommend

1647
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:27,680
you check that out yeah the whole trick

1648
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:29,760
is um and i

1649
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:31,039
i

1650
01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:43,839
about

1651
01:06:48,789 --> 01:06:47,359
is the delay of a reaction from when you

1652
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:48,799
hit a switch

1653
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:51,520
or turn something on and off uh

1654
01:06:56,230 --> 01:06:54,000
with musical gear and then going back

1655
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:56,240
through a computer it's not

1656
01:07:00,150 --> 01:06:57,839
instantaneous

1657
01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:00,160
right it's not there's a delay that

1658
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:02,640
happens there and we've been fighting

1659
01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:05,920
that stupid delay

1660
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:07,680
no matter what in the music industry for

1661
01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:09,839
a very long time trying to overcome it

1662
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:12,799
i had to i had that problem here i would

1663
01:07:15,589 --> 01:07:14,720
play our commercials

1664
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:15,599
uh

1665
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:18,480
through a program with a computer and

1666
01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:21,200
there was a delay by the time i clicked

1667
01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:23,760
on the mouse and everything happened and

1668
01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:26,640
then boom and then it decides to play

1669
01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:28,720
sometimes it's a few seconds

1670
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:30,799
and and plus it's a computer sometimes

1671
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:32,559
it could take even longer or not

1672
01:07:39,109 --> 01:07:35,280
happening at all so yeah i switched to a

1673
01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:39,119
hardware solution and i've got a tascam

1674
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:41,039
uh sampler

1675
01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:44,240
now i've got a a keyboard

1676
01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:46,240
i could almost hold it up to the camera

1677
01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:49,200
that's got soft buttons all over it and

1678
01:07:55,910 --> 01:07:53,119
instead of triggering uh samples and

1679
01:07:58,150 --> 01:07:55,920
sounds off of a computer i'm going

1680
01:07:59,670 --> 01:07:58,160
straight off of a ram chip

1681
01:08:02,150 --> 01:07:59,680
and so it's

1682
01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:02,160
just like that you know it's yeah oh

1683
01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:04,400
it's cool man and and i have that

1684
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:06,559
tactile feel too as well which is

1685
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:08,720
important well that's the thing right so

1686
01:08:12,470 --> 01:08:10,640
that's that's kind of the issue too with

1687
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:12,480
ableton and for those listening you know

1688
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:15,039
ableton as a software kind of like a a

1689
01:08:19,110 --> 01:08:17,040
digital audio workstation a daw kind of

1690
01:08:21,189 --> 01:08:19,120
like logic or pro tools pro tools but

1691
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:21,199
it's designed for using for live

1692
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:22,880
performance it's really robust it's kind

1693
01:08:27,749 --> 01:08:25,279
of like garage band i would say ableton

1694
01:08:29,110 --> 01:08:27,759
live is kind of like garage man you know

1695
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:29,120
some guys are going to be really angry

1696
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,640
at you for saying that but i'll you know

1697
01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:32,080
i'll go along with that

1698
01:08:37,590 --> 01:08:35,600
yeah yeah or what was the other one um

1699
01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:37,600
uh the one that was before ableton that

1700
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:40,880
was just like it uh vegas oh man i'm

1701
01:08:44,470 --> 01:08:42,560
trying to think of the

1702
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:44,480
there was another one that i used to use

1703
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:47,759
too as well uh back in the day but yeah

1704
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:50,640
ableton live is is an industry standard

1705
01:08:53,430 --> 01:08:52,159
now i didn't think it would get to where

1706
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:53,440
it is but it's

1707
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:55,199
oh man it's evolved you know and so so

1708
01:08:59,110 --> 01:08:57,120
now this is the thing is that it's like

1709
01:09:01,910 --> 01:08:59,120
lego think of legos right everyone knows

1710
01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:01,920
legos so imagine legos for for

1711
01:09:06,470 --> 01:09:04,159
performing and sound engineering like it

1712
01:09:08,630 --> 01:09:06,480
gives you all the blocks the individual

1713
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:08,640
little like blocks of devices and things

1714
01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:11,199
that control and do anything to sound

1715
01:09:14,309 --> 01:09:13,040
and so it's really up to the person

1716
01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:14,319
using it and how creative they are and

1717
01:09:18,149 --> 01:09:16,080
how skilled they want to be or how long

1718
01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:18,159
they want to study youtube versity to

1719
01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:20,719
basically build a rig you know and and

1720
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:22,719
mangle or create sounds that never been

1721
01:09:28,309 --> 01:09:25,199
created or you know take live sounds or

1722
01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:28,319
dj with sounds it's pretty robust and

1723
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:30,719
and the latest version 10 is is like is

1724
01:09:33,910 --> 01:09:32,880
pretty phenomenal now the thing is is

1725
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:33,920
what we were just going back to what

1726
01:09:37,269 --> 01:09:35,679
we're saying is there's no tactile

1727
01:09:39,189 --> 01:09:37,279
interface like i like to touch something

1728
01:09:41,349 --> 01:09:39,199
like you i'm you know i'm a very tactile

1729
01:09:43,510 --> 01:09:41,359
person and i don't i don't want to look

1730
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:43,520
at a laptop and look like i'm checking

1731
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:45,600
email when i'm performing right

1732
01:09:49,030 --> 01:09:47,279
um and that's what's kind of cool about

1733
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:49,040
this guy this musician from san luis

1734
01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:51,920
obispo his name is vince simo and man he

1735
01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:53,759
we got connected to another mutual

1736
01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:55,040
friend musician

1737
01:09:59,110 --> 01:09:57,120
and um he was like dude you guys need to

1738
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:59,120
meet he's got this indiegogo thing and

1739
01:10:02,149 --> 01:10:00,560
he's building this prototype he's a

1740
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:02,159
musician who also knows how to code and

1741
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:04,880
program and he basically got into the

1742
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:07,920
api the back end of ableton and hacked

1743
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:10,000
it basically to where he got it a midi

1744
01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:11,520
controller that could work with the

1745
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:13,360
little looper device that ableton comes

1746
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,679
with but it's unreliable i tried using

1747
01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:17,280
it tried to map it to like midi

1748
01:10:22,229 --> 01:10:19,679
controllers but it never was reliable to

1749
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:22,239
take to the stage and so he he hacked it

1750
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:23,600
and got it to where it's actually the

1751
01:10:29,430 --> 01:10:26,719
latency is load the delay aka latency is

1752
01:10:31,189 --> 01:10:29,440
down to where it's almost imperceptible

1753
01:10:32,630 --> 01:10:31,199
and that it actually does what you think

1754
01:10:33,510 --> 01:10:32,640
it's going to do almost like hardware

1755
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:33,520
because that's what i like about the

1756
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:35,679
hardware pedal right like the rc is you

1757
01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:37,040
know it just does the one thing and it

1758
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:39,520
does it well and ableton is like a beast

1759
01:10:43,189 --> 01:10:41,679
it can do a million things and so if it

1760
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:43,199
could easily crash or something could go

1761
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:45,120
wrong you know so it doesn't eliminate

1762
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:46,960
obviously the possibility of crashing so

1763
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:48,719
you need a second laptop as a backup if

1764
01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:49,600
you're well

1765
01:10:52,950 --> 01:10:52,159
or that rc 300 is still going to every

1766
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:52,960
gig

1767
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:54,719
exactly yeah you got something so that

1768
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:56,719
you can you know worst case scenario you

1769
01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:58,320
can throw something down and the show

1770
01:11:01,830 --> 01:11:00,480
goes on right but that's yeah so that's

1771
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:01,840
what i'm basically working on is this

1772
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:03,920
new rig that will basically give me the

1773
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:06,480
ability to do so much more than i've

1774
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:08,560
been able to do with just hardware um

1775
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:10,320
but but i'm with you i mean you know

1776
01:11:13,590 --> 01:11:11,440
there's definitely something to be said

1777
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:13,600
about hardware the reliability of it you

1778
01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:16,159
know yeah that's that's huge

1779
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:18,080
now there's something else that i find

1780
01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:20,800
interesting about your music and i'm

1781
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:24,080
just wondering because improvisation is

1782
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:27,920
is 99 of it totally in that uh

1783
01:11:33,270 --> 01:11:30,400
you you're going to layer these ideas

1784
01:11:34,390 --> 01:11:33,280
and and it's coming out from the soul at

1785
01:11:37,030 --> 01:11:34,400
that moment

1786
01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:37,040
do you ever i'm thinking of like a

1787
01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:38,800
comedy show

1788
01:11:42,189 --> 01:11:40,400
take this in the right way

1789
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:42,199
where in an

1790
01:11:47,910 --> 01:11:45,040
improvisational comedy setting people

1791
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:47,920
are yelling out things cantaloupe right

1792
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:49,520
and now they've got to crack a joke

1793
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:51,360
about cantaloupes

1794
01:11:58,430 --> 01:11:54,880
right does anybody ever say anything to

1795
01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,440
you or suggest from the audience um

1796
01:12:01,830 --> 01:12:00,880
enlightenment of

1797
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:01,840
uh

1798
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:07,679
you know and and and where you take the

1799
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:09,360
spirit of

1800
01:12:12,950 --> 01:12:11,760
and improv into a direction at that

1801
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:12,960
moment

1802
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:15,360
absolutely i mean i i i love doing that

1803
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:17,440
so uh so for instance you know

1804
01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:19,360
i just did this this run of shows again

1805
01:12:22,149 --> 01:12:20,800
at the desert botanical garden they

1806
01:12:24,149 --> 01:12:22,159
actually just had me back for another

1807
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:24,159
run it had been five years since i did

1808
01:12:27,030 --> 01:12:25,440
that one i just told you about when i

1809
01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:27,040
learned how to loop so i've been doing

1810
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:28,640
this like five six years looping

1811
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:29,920
specifically and

1812
01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:32,159
and and so um i go back there and this

1813
01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:33,679
it's kind of an audience it's a thing

1814
01:12:36,229 --> 01:12:34,880
where people are constantly walking

1815
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:36,239
through the gardens and you know it's

1816
01:12:38,950 --> 01:12:37,920
all lit up with candles fifty thousand

1817
01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:38,960
candles at night it's called the

1818
01:12:43,189 --> 01:12:41,120
luminarias uh not to be confused with

1819
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:43,199
the illuminati right and so

1820
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:44,960
and so you're hanging out there in the

1821
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:46,320
desert and people are coming through

1822
01:12:49,990 --> 01:12:48,239
different audiences kind of cycling and

1823
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:50,000
and so it's more concert style kind of i

1824
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:51,440
talk i tell stories about the

1825
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:53,120
instruments because a lot of festival

1826
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:54,719
shows and other con you know shows that

1827
01:12:59,270 --> 01:12:57,040
i do i'm i'm more like i'm just building

1828
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:59,280
music and i don't really talk as much to

1829
01:13:03,189 --> 01:13:00,880
the audience say you know i don't stop

1830
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:03,199
between songs as much and so it's cool

1831
01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:04,800
so people i would tell people i'd be

1832
01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:06,560
like you know hey i don't have a set

1833
01:13:10,709 --> 01:13:08,640
list so what do you all want to do we

1834
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:10,719
can go up we can go down we can go

1835
01:13:14,790 --> 01:13:12,800
outside or we can go inside or inside

1836
01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:14,800
out what do you like and often someone

1837
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:16,800
goes inside out

1838
01:13:22,149 --> 01:13:19,120
i love that i love that

1839
01:13:24,070 --> 01:13:22,159
i love that i'd be in the back row dmt

1840
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:24,080
yes exactly

1841
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:26,400
exactly and now and so let's let's

1842
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:28,239
actually let's take a right-hand turn

1843
01:13:31,510 --> 01:13:29,040
here

1844
01:13:33,430 --> 01:13:31,520
and and uh

1845
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:33,440
you have had

1846
01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:37,760
a lot of spiritual journeys wink wink

1847
01:13:47,669 --> 01:13:44,000
okay now with those journeys uh there is

1848
01:13:48,870 --> 01:13:47,679
you before them and you after as a

1849
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:48,880
musician

1850
01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:51,280
how has it changed you

1851
01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:52,640
um

1852
01:13:57,189 --> 01:13:53,760
well that's a really interesting

1853
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:57,199
question so how has it changed me i mean

1854
01:14:00,390 --> 01:13:58,080
gosh

1855
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:00,400
in so many ways i guess there's

1856
01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:02,560
you know from the time i was very little

1857
01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:05,199
um i was already around ceremony from

1858
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:07,360
really early early on gosh i mean i i

1859
01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:10,000
sat up in my first temazcal which is a

1860
01:14:15,110 --> 01:14:12,320
purification ceremony when i was about

1861
01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:15,120
seven years old and you know

1862
01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:17,199
yeah just kind of being in that kind of

1863
01:14:21,430 --> 01:14:19,760
closed dark environment and exposed to

1864
01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,440
you know the elements in a very extreme

1865
01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:23,679
way and just not being claustrophobic

1866
01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:25,440
you know not being able to be classroom

1867
01:14:28,550 --> 01:14:27,280
you could be claustrophobic but no one's

1868
01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:28,560
really paying attention to you in that

1869
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:31,520
way um and you know but taking myself

1870
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:33,760
into those really deep places and and i

1871
01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:34,880
would say

1872
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:37,040
they've always shown me and when i say

1873
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:38,880
they i'm referring to

1874
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:41,520
um to the spirit realm you know to to

1875
01:14:45,030 --> 01:14:43,679
the guides you if you will maybe some

1876
01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:45,040
people call them angels maybe some

1877
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:46,880
people call them you know uh helper

1878
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:49,360
spirits or you know ascended masters

1879
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:50,560
whoever you want to talk to i think

1880
01:14:53,750 --> 01:14:51,760
there's a lot of ways to talk about

1881
01:14:55,510 --> 01:14:53,760
these things but for me you know they've

1882
01:14:58,470 --> 01:14:55,520
they've been ancestors and guides who

1883
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:58,480
come to me and they've shown themselves

1884
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:59,679
and a lot of them you know there's

1885
01:15:03,189 --> 01:15:00,960
different there's different ones and

1886
01:15:05,189 --> 01:15:03,199
different ones they have had different

1887
01:15:07,270 --> 01:15:05,199
several of them are musicians in fact

1888
01:15:09,270 --> 01:15:07,280
and um some of them come from africa

1889
01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:09,280
some of them come from south america

1890
01:15:12,149 --> 01:15:10,400
and they

1891
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:12,159
play through me there's a level of that

1892
01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:13,040
that i

1893
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:14,880
witnessed and i started to tap into

1894
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:16,960
early on when i was learning how to play

1895
01:15:21,510 --> 01:15:20,239
ceremonial drumming for for ceremony

1896
01:15:23,110 --> 01:15:21,520
and so the thing i was learning

1897
01:15:24,390 --> 01:15:23,120
especially in those contexts when we

1898
01:15:27,350 --> 01:15:24,400
drum for ceremony

1899
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:27,360
um i one one of those contexts is was in

1900
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:30,239
the umbandamia church in brazil

1901
01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:32,719
and in that tradition which originated

1902
01:15:36,229 --> 01:15:34,400
it kind of has its roots all the way

1903
01:15:38,709 --> 01:15:36,239
back to cannonblair all the way back to

1904
01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:38,719
ifa and now we're talking west africa

1905
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:39,920
right right right where a lot of the

1906
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:41,920
slaves came from and it's been mapped

1907
01:15:45,669 --> 01:15:43,679
into christianity catholicism so you

1908
01:15:47,910 --> 01:15:45,679
have this really interesting syncretic

1909
01:15:49,750 --> 01:15:47,920
like meshing happening there so saints

1910
01:15:51,350 --> 01:15:49,760
are mapped to it kind of like you know

1911
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:51,360
so certain saints will represent certain

1912
01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:53,040
orishas which is like their gods and

1913
01:15:56,950 --> 01:15:54,719
goddesses you know that represent

1914
01:16:00,550 --> 01:15:56,960
different elements and and so

1915
01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:00,560
it's a trans uh spiritual tradition so

1916
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:02,800
it's very much about divination about

1917
01:16:06,790 --> 01:16:04,960
being able to see into the future and be

1918
01:16:09,030 --> 01:16:06,800
able to communicate with spirits being

1919
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:09,040
able to predict what's going to come

1920
01:16:12,790 --> 01:16:10,960
being able to enter into a trance state

1921
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:12,800
and even possession

1922
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:14,560
which that kind of can scare people here

1923
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:16,320
up in the north you know

1924
01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:18,080
but it's something that's been around in

1925
01:16:23,510 --> 01:16:20,320
various traditions since recorded

1926
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:23,520
history right well let me let me uh let

1927
01:16:28,310 --> 01:16:26,080
me ask you this you just said from a

1928
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:28,320
very young age

1929
01:16:33,430 --> 01:16:30,880
take me back to that point you weren't

1930
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:33,440
participating in the ceremony you were

1931
01:16:39,110 --> 01:16:34,400
the

1932
01:16:41,510 --> 01:16:39,120
right how old were you it

1933
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:41,520
was yeah well it depends there's kind of

1934
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:43,120
there's there's a lot of stories here

1935
01:16:47,189 --> 01:16:45,520
there's a lot of levels to it um so when

1936
01:16:48,550 --> 01:16:47,199
when i was

1937
01:16:50,870 --> 01:16:48,560
my first like kind of drumming and

1938
01:16:53,350 --> 01:16:50,880
ceremony happened in my like during my

1939
01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:53,360
teens okay um where i was allowed to

1940
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:55,840
then actually play um officially if you

1941
01:17:00,229 --> 01:16:58,239
will um but i was already participating

1942
01:17:01,669 --> 01:17:00,239
and you know being in the ceremonies

1943
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:01,679
when i was even younger than that as i

1944
01:17:05,189 --> 01:17:02,880
was talking about you know with like the

1945
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:05,199
tamaska temazcal is um for those who

1946
01:17:08,870 --> 01:17:07,199
don't know it's similar to the inipi

1947
01:17:11,270 --> 01:17:08,880
ceremony that the lakota have up here in

1948
01:17:13,669 --> 01:17:11,280
the north or the sioux tribes which was

1949
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:13,679
like a sweat lodge um

1950
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:15,440
and so in that ceremony for those who

1951
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:17,360
are listening you know it's it's very

1952
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:19,920
simple ceremony in that it's about using

1953
01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:21,280
just the elements you're not working

1954
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:23,920
with any type of psychotropic you know

1955
01:17:29,030 --> 01:17:26,320
plants or anthrogenic plants like that

1956
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:29,040
you're actually activating those

1957
01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:30,480
molecules within yourself so you're

1958
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:32,960
releasing dmt within yourself by going

1959
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:35,280
into a state where you're you know

1960
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:36,719
you're sweating kind of like you would

1961
01:17:40,390 --> 01:17:39,280
in a sauna but very different in that

1962
01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:40,400
you're working directly with the

1963
01:17:44,709 --> 01:17:41,920
elements you've already probably you've

1964
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:44,719
fast your body's already in a water fast

1965
01:17:48,630 --> 01:17:46,719
you're already kind of like under stress

1966
01:17:50,229 --> 01:17:48,640
and so as a result when you go into

1967
01:17:53,110 --> 01:17:50,239
those rounds

1968
01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:53,120
with the song and the drum um

1969
01:17:56,630 --> 01:17:54,719
you're kind of taken into this visionary

1970
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:56,640
space and you're in total darkness and

1971
01:18:00,070 --> 01:17:58,560
all you see is like the glowing of of

1972
01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:00,080
the rocks and stones right that are

1973
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:01,840
brought in from the fire yeah i see i

1974
01:18:08,070 --> 01:18:04,400
don't want anybody to imagine you at the

1975
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:08,080
age of 13 with psychedelic drugs

1976
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:10,960
and a drum that's not what right that's

1977
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:13,199
not what we're talking about here

1978
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:15,120
yeah well yeah just to be clear just to

1979
01:18:20,870 --> 01:18:16,080
be clear

1980
01:18:22,630 --> 01:18:20,880
then later on with with the drumming you

1981
01:18:24,229 --> 01:18:22,640
know like i was saying in the umba

1982
01:18:26,709 --> 01:18:24,239
dimitris for instance they work with

1983
01:18:29,430 --> 01:18:26,719
daimy and so in that context they they

1984
01:18:30,870 --> 01:18:29,440
will also layer in adami daime for those

1985
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:30,880
who don't know is

1986
01:18:34,870 --> 01:18:32,800
um in brazil is fully you know

1987
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:34,880
recognized and respected by by the

1988
01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:37,120
government it's not an illegal substance

1989
01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:39,199
but it is a plant that

1990
01:18:43,350 --> 01:18:40,880
it's it's

1991
01:18:45,590 --> 01:18:43,360
similar to what people know in peru and

1992
01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:45,600
in kind of that part of south america is

1993
01:18:48,229 --> 01:18:46,880
ayahuasca

1994
01:18:49,830 --> 01:18:48,239
which is actually two different plants

1995
01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:49,840
you know there are the two main plant

1996
01:18:54,550 --> 01:18:52,560
constituents that make up this brew an

1997
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:54,560
mao inhibitor combined with another

1998
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:56,960
plant that also has high levels of dmt

1999
01:19:01,990 --> 01:18:59,520
um with another plant that works with

2000
01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:02,000
that together basically to take you you

2001
01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:03,840
know activate you into a visionary state

2002
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:05,840
also to heal the body to heal you from

2003
01:19:09,910 --> 01:19:08,000
cancer from numerous things i mean it's

2004
01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:09,920
it's pretty amazing can heal depression

2005
01:19:13,270 --> 01:19:11,440
ptsd there's all these new studies

2006
01:19:14,790 --> 01:19:13,280
coming out so

2007
01:19:16,310 --> 01:19:14,800
that's kind of like just to kind of draw

2008
01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:16,320
the parallel so for instance in that

2009
01:19:19,350 --> 01:19:17,440
context

2010
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,360
they they might work with that medicine

2011
01:19:23,510 --> 01:19:21,520
in addition to just the music and the

2012
01:19:25,189 --> 01:19:23,520
dance which already is the medicine if

2013
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:25,199
you get what i'm saying so

2014
01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:26,880
that's the main thing though in these

2015
01:19:29,910 --> 01:19:28,640
trans traditions they don't historically

2016
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:29,920
always work with necessarily an

2017
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:32,800
anthrogenic you know substance plant um

2018
01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:35,920
or plants or other other helpers but

2019
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:37,920
just working with just the rhythms and

2020
01:19:40,229 --> 01:19:39,360
this is kind of what i wanted to point

2021
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:40,239
out is

2022
01:19:44,149 --> 01:19:42,880
you know for me learning early on is as

2023
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:44,159
a drummer

2024
01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:46,080
the drummers we're you know we're we're

2025
01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:47,440
kind of we're given a very special

2026
01:19:51,430 --> 01:19:49,920
blessing and and they they do with some

2027
01:19:53,189 --> 01:19:51,440
kind of a ritual where they close our

2028
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:53,199
head which basically means we can't

2029
01:19:57,669 --> 01:19:55,040
receive a spirit so we we don't get

2030
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:57,679
possessed we're kind of our job there is

2031
01:20:01,590 --> 01:19:59,520
to hold it down you know we're kind of

2032
01:20:03,750 --> 01:20:01,600
the foundation of the ceremony to to

2033
01:20:05,990 --> 01:20:03,760
drum for the ceremony so that others can

2034
01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:06,000
receive spirits if that is to happen or

2035
01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:07,760
not happen and so that the whole

2036
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:09,120
ceremony kind of the container of the

2037
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:11,280
ceremony can happen um and so the

2038
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:13,679
rhythms that we play and this gets into

2039
01:20:17,910 --> 01:20:15,760
a very ancient technology

2040
01:20:20,790 --> 01:20:17,920
are specifically designed to get us out

2041
01:20:23,270 --> 01:20:20,800
of our mind and get us into our body and

2042
01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:23,280
to connect us to spirit to source and

2043
01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:24,960
that's very intentional and it's a very

2044
01:20:28,870 --> 01:20:26,880
important thing because it's it's a way

2045
01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:28,880
to pray you know it's a way to open this

2046
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:32,320
portal and and when it's done right and

2047
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:34,239
the right people are holding that space

2048
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:36,719
you don't open a portal and let beings

2049
01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:38,320
that we don't want to let in you you're

2050
01:20:42,149 --> 01:20:40,719
bringing in good beings if you will um

2051
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,159
you know so that so that good healing

2052
01:20:45,350 --> 01:20:44,000
can happen and there's usually a focus

2053
01:20:47,189 --> 01:20:45,360
of this it's not like we just want to

2054
01:20:49,110 --> 01:20:47,199
you know pop this you know this

2055
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:49,120
dimensional portal open and bring in all

2056
01:20:53,350 --> 01:20:51,440
kinds of really um not you know kind of

2057
01:20:54,870 --> 01:20:53,360
a dangerous thing if you will it's done

2058
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:54,880
really intentionally usually for a

2059
01:20:59,590 --> 01:20:57,840
healing usually for some specific rights

2060
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:59,600
uh maybe a rite of passage maybe it's

2061
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:01,199
being done because of you know people

2062
01:21:04,790 --> 01:21:03,120
are being joined or there's various

2063
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:04,800
things you know maybe we're we're

2064
01:21:09,590 --> 01:21:07,440
focusing on some kind of specific thing

2065
01:21:12,229 --> 01:21:09,600
that wants to to be done if you will for

2066
01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:12,239
the ceremony um and so yeah just to kind

2067
01:21:17,030 --> 01:21:14,800
of give that that perspective and so the

2068
01:21:18,950 --> 01:21:17,040
drumming and the drummers are kind of

2069
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:18,960
essential we're like the motor of this

2070
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:21,760
thing um and of course the singers uh

2071
01:21:25,189 --> 01:21:23,360
which could also be the drummers or

2072
01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:25,199
could be other people

2073
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:26,480
so that's kind of like just to give you

2074
01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:29,040
like a orientation of that but yeah from

2075
01:21:31,750 --> 01:21:30,960
early on you know that that's been part

2076
01:21:40,950 --> 01:21:31,760
of

2077
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,960
did this change musically absolutely you

2078
01:21:44,470 --> 01:21:43,040
know um i think

2079
01:21:47,030 --> 01:21:44,480
whenever i

2080
01:21:49,350 --> 01:21:47,040
perform and whether that is in you know

2081
01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:49,360
a concert hall or performing arts center

2082
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:52,320
or if it's at a festival or if it's just

2083
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:55,360
you know at a ceremony um it's it's done

2084
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:57,440
i do so with utmost respect and

2085
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:00,320
reverence for all beings both seen and

2086
01:22:06,149 --> 01:22:03,679
unseen and i do so always trying to

2087
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:06,159
not trying but really tuning into what

2088
01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:07,760
is happening what's the energy here you

2089
01:22:11,189 --> 01:22:09,360
know like if i'm in a festival where

2090
01:22:12,870 --> 01:22:11,199
everyone's really wasted you know what i

2091
01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:12,880
mean really high or everyone's you know

2092
01:22:18,950 --> 01:22:15,760
whatever it is you know my job i always

2093
01:22:21,189 --> 01:22:18,960
feel is i'm conducting the master of

2094
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:21,199
ceremonies here my job is to tune in to

2095
01:22:24,550 --> 01:22:22,880
what needs to happen right here like you

2096
01:22:26,070 --> 01:22:24,560
know is there kind of a vampiric energy

2097
01:22:27,270 --> 01:22:26,080
going on here right you know is this is

2098
01:22:28,470 --> 01:22:27,280
this like you know bud light is

2099
01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:28,480
sponsoring this and it's just like

2100
01:22:32,950 --> 01:22:30,480
another way like suck energy out of

2101
01:22:34,870 --> 01:22:32,960
people yeah or is this about really like

2102
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:34,880
you know what needs to happen here so

2103
01:22:40,790 --> 01:22:37,520
i'll i'll shift my set my music my sound

2104
01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:40,800
to really shape shift and meet people so

2105
01:22:45,189 --> 01:22:42,719
that i can try to create a cohesive

2106
01:22:47,030 --> 01:22:45,199
field and and really try to support like

2107
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:47,040
you know like you read about my bio it's

2108
01:22:50,149 --> 01:22:48,880
about supporting the well-being of all

2109
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:50,159
beings you know for the greatest good of

2110
01:22:53,830 --> 01:22:52,159
all humans and all beings not just

2111
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:53,840
humans two leggeds but all creatures

2112
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:55,679
because you know man that's i feel like

2113
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:57,280
that's so important so much music has

2114
01:23:00,790 --> 01:22:59,120
really turned into kind of a i hate to

2115
01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:00,800
say the word but kind of a prostitution

2116
01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:02,880
you know it's it's a it's kind of like

2117
01:23:06,149 --> 01:23:04,480
you know it's entertainment to kind of

2118
01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:06,159
distract you while this other thing is

2119
01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:08,080
going on behind the scenes which you

2120
01:23:10,790 --> 01:23:09,360
know you've been in the entertainment

2121
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:10,800
business you know it's about selling

2122
01:23:13,750 --> 01:23:12,880
alcohol or it's about you know other

2123
01:23:16,709 --> 01:23:13,760
things

2124
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:16,719
people go there to entertain themselves

2125
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:19,360
too with different illicit materials and

2126
01:23:25,590 --> 01:23:21,840
you're absolutely right where there is a

2127
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:25,600
lot of open minds and consciousnesses

2128
01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:27,600
that are running around that are also

2129
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:28,960
vulnerable

2130
01:23:35,590 --> 01:23:32,719
and and when that door is open it could

2131
01:23:38,950 --> 01:23:35,600
the the energy could be focused in a

2132
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:38,960
very bad unpositive way

2133
01:23:43,430 --> 01:23:40,560
you are able

2134
01:23:45,910 --> 01:23:43,440
to lasso it and rope it and bring it

2135
01:23:47,910 --> 01:23:45,920
back in and get it back into

2136
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:47,920
you know the masses that are there

2137
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:50,719
focusing into another direction one of

2138
01:23:54,070 --> 01:23:52,320
enlightenment

2139
01:23:55,590 --> 01:23:54,080
that's that's really the intention

2140
01:23:57,189 --> 01:23:55,600
always it's like that's kind of my

2141
01:23:58,950 --> 01:23:57,199
guiding light if you will you know like

2142
01:24:00,550 --> 01:23:58,960
where we need to go right now do i need

2143
01:24:02,149 --> 01:24:00,560
to make this like i need to lighten the

2144
01:24:04,229 --> 01:24:02,159
energy do i need to take us a little

2145
01:24:05,990 --> 01:24:04,239
layer deeper are you know and just kind

2146
01:24:07,750 --> 01:24:06,000
of really reading the audience so it's

2147
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:07,760
it's really about that connection that's

2148
01:24:11,669 --> 01:24:09,679
why i was saying like it's you know the

2149
01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:11,679
technologies i want that to be invisible

2150
01:24:15,270 --> 01:24:13,360
it's just enabling me basically

2151
01:24:17,830 --> 01:24:15,280
empowering me to be able to use these

2152
01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:17,840
tools to move that energy in a in a

2153
01:24:21,189 --> 01:24:19,280
massive way you know are you ever

2154
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:21,199
tempted to take everybody into a

2155
01:24:27,110 --> 01:24:23,690
three-day nightmare with lightning bolts

2156
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:27,120
[Laughter]

2157
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:28,000
you know

2158
01:24:31,990 --> 01:24:30,480
because you could right i mean yeah you

2159
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:32,000
know there's a lot of power that can be

2160
01:24:35,350 --> 01:24:33,920
welded a lot of power

2161
01:24:37,189 --> 01:24:35,360
you but you got to be there's a lot of

2162
01:24:39,590 --> 01:24:37,199
responsibility you know i feel i feel a

2163
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:39,600
lot of responsibility with it so so no i

2164
01:24:44,149 --> 01:24:42,400
don't i don't i don't i don't go there

2165
01:24:46,070 --> 01:24:44,159
unless you know every once in a while

2166
01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:46,080
when like you know the one times when

2167
01:24:50,149 --> 01:24:48,080
i'm like all right i need to do

2168
01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:50,159
something radical here is when people

2169
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:51,920
are like really like treating like

2170
01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:53,840
background music if you know what i mean

2171
01:24:57,830 --> 01:24:56,159
sure when people are just like ignoring

2172
01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:57,840
what's going on here and they're just

2173
01:25:01,590 --> 01:24:59,760
totally oblivious like i've played i've

2174
01:25:03,830 --> 01:25:01,600
had unfortunately i've had to stoop down

2175
01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:03,840
and play play my fair share of corporate

2176
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shows right yep

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and that's now that's the target

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audience man where it's like okay these

2179
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:12,880
guys are so dense and just so not

2180
01:25:16,310 --> 01:25:14,960
not tuned in they're just worried about

2181
01:25:18,229 --> 01:25:16,320
you know how to impress the person

2182
01:25:20,149 --> 01:25:18,239
sitting next to them or whatever and

2183
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:20,159
that's you know i kind of love that kind

2184
01:25:24,470 --> 01:25:21,520
of challenge you know it's like all

2185
01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:24,480
right i'll show them

2186
01:25:29,030 --> 01:25:26,320
you know and it's not so much like it's

2187
01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:29,040
like how can i get these guys to like

2188
01:25:32,229 --> 01:25:30,080
actually

2189
01:25:33,590 --> 01:25:32,239
you know tune in a little notch deeper

2190
01:25:35,189 --> 01:25:33,600
because i get something you know i

2191
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,199
really i learned this early on like i

2192
01:25:38,870 --> 01:25:37,040
went to school with the the jesuits i

2193
01:25:40,629 --> 01:25:38,880
had i went to a jesuit high school when

2194
01:25:41,910 --> 01:25:40,639
i first came you know when i was when i

2195
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:41,920
was here in the united states first came

2196
01:25:45,350 --> 01:25:43,760
here in arizona and i learned something

2197
01:25:46,790 --> 01:25:45,360
from the jesuits the jesuits knew and

2198
01:25:48,550 --> 01:25:46,800
this is something that is really curious

2199
01:25:50,550 --> 01:25:48,560
about them whether you're catholic

2200
01:25:52,390 --> 01:25:50,560
christian or not is that the jesuits if

2201
01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:52,400
you look historically where they were

2202
01:25:56,709 --> 01:25:54,800
around the planet they're very strategic

2203
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:56,719
man they knew that if they could

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01:26:00,229 --> 01:25:58,560
influence the influencers if they could

2205
01:26:02,149 --> 01:26:00,239
be close to the wealthiest and most

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01:26:04,550 --> 01:26:02,159
powerful people on the planet

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01:26:05,990 --> 01:26:04,560
that they could actually wield change

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01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:06,000
things they could affect and impact

2209
01:26:09,350 --> 01:26:07,520
things and so they would do that they

2210
01:26:11,189 --> 01:26:09,360
were always the advisors to like whoever

2211
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:11,199
was in power right and they were also

2212
01:26:14,229 --> 01:26:12,719
the first ones on the scene the first

2213
01:26:15,910 --> 01:26:14,239
ones to come over and to start to

2214
01:26:17,750 --> 01:26:15,920
translate the languages the indigenous

2215
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:17,760
people you know in south america and the

2216
01:26:21,590 --> 01:26:19,520
first colonies they were the first ones

2217
01:26:23,430 --> 01:26:21,600
in china the first ones to right to do

2218
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,440
this so really strategic and so i

2219
01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:25,760
learned from the jesuits that if if i

2220
01:26:30,070 --> 01:26:28,000
want to be able to impact the world on

2221
01:26:31,590 --> 01:26:30,080
all levels i've got to also be able to

2222
01:26:33,430 --> 01:26:31,600
reach these people

2223
01:26:35,430 --> 01:26:33,440
and so for me when i'm playing in those

2224
01:26:37,110 --> 01:26:35,440
kind of settings it's like okay how can

2225
01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:37,120
i activate them so then what do i do i

2226
01:26:41,350 --> 01:26:39,360
bust out a didgeridoo and then i don't

2227
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:41,360
just bust out a didgeridoo but i get off

2228
01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:44,000
the stage i'll walk off the stage right

2229
01:26:48,629 --> 01:26:46,480
out into the audience with my wireless

2230
01:26:49,910 --> 01:26:48,639
on there and just blast them open man

2231
01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:49,920
and people they don't know what to do

2232
01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:51,679
they kind of like some people freak out

2233
01:26:55,750 --> 01:26:53,600
they're like wait he's not staying in

2234
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:55,760
the little box that we put him in

2235
01:27:00,070 --> 01:26:57,679
and that and you know so for me i love

2236
01:27:02,470 --> 01:27:00,080
breaking the barrier of that audience

2237
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:02,480
you know perspective you know a stage

2238
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:04,159
invisible kind of like line that you're

2239
01:27:07,990 --> 01:27:06,400
not supposed to cross that's my favorite

2240
01:27:09,590 --> 01:27:08,000
line to break and make people really

2241
01:27:11,110 --> 01:27:09,600
freak out

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01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:11,120
well you know there's there's something

2243
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:13,440
else here too oh somebody just i i

2244
01:27:17,350 --> 01:27:14,800
remembered now

2245
01:27:18,870 --> 01:27:17,360
the original looping software

2246
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:18,880
was acid

2247
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:21,440
all right you remember acid i do on the

2248
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:24,000
pc yeah yeah yeah yeah acid which was

2249
01:27:28,390 --> 01:27:26,080
brought by sony and then ableton was

2250
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:28,400
running at the same time and uh

2251
01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:30,639
competitive but uh it was acid that got

2252
01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:33,280
me into looping um

2253
01:27:37,750 --> 01:27:36,400
acid everybody is the name of the

2254
01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:37,760
program

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01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:40,000
the name of the software

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01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:41,600
can they quote you

2257
01:27:45,910 --> 01:27:43,199
and there's the this is the other thing

2258
01:27:47,030 --> 01:27:45,920
that i've respected not only uh about

2259
01:27:50,229 --> 01:27:47,040
you but

2260
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:50,239
uh those that uh are able to play the

2261
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:51,920
non-traditional instruments and the

2262
01:27:56,470 --> 01:27:54,719
tribal instruments and uh percussive and

2263
01:27:58,950 --> 01:27:56,480
whatever it may be

2264
01:28:02,709 --> 01:27:58,960
it's it's some of the most difficult uh

2265
01:28:05,430 --> 01:28:02,719
but uh uh difficult to learn and to

2266
01:28:08,470 --> 01:28:05,440
master and plus you gotta find them you

2267
01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:08,480
know that's that there's that part but

2268
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,080
it's the most difficult to play and

2269
01:28:13,110 --> 01:28:12,000
you've always got some doofus in the

2270
01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:13,120
audience

2271
01:28:18,629 --> 01:28:16,239
that is like ow man you know i

2272
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:18,639
i can do that well you know what you

2273
01:28:21,830 --> 01:28:19,760
can't

2274
01:28:24,070 --> 01:28:21,840
it's it is uh

2275
01:28:26,950 --> 01:28:24,080
the the poly rhythms that are going on

2276
01:28:29,830 --> 01:28:26,960
the technique the years of practice and

2277
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:29,840
and to to attempt to master these

2278
01:28:35,750 --> 01:28:32,880
instruments is very very difficult and

2279
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:35,760
it's not easy to do it's one of the do

2280
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:38,320
you have to go out and

2281
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:40,400
and visit different countries and and

2282
01:28:45,590 --> 01:28:43,520
get to the original players of these

2283
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:45,600
uh indigenous instruments to learn the

2284
01:28:49,270 --> 01:28:47,040
craft

2285
01:28:50,790 --> 01:28:49,280
absolutely i mean that's kind of part

2286
01:28:53,189 --> 01:28:50,800
part of it for me actually that i think

2287
01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:53,199
is an important piece is is connecting

2288
01:28:57,669 --> 01:28:55,360
to where the instruments come from and

2289
01:28:59,830 --> 01:28:57,679
the people and the stories

2290
01:29:01,510 --> 01:28:59,840
right and the kind of like where like

2291
01:29:03,270 --> 01:29:01,520
knowing the creation myth of the of the

2292
01:29:05,189 --> 01:29:03,280
dudes you know knowing like these

2293
01:29:06,870 --> 01:29:05,199
nuances about these instruments really

2294
01:29:08,550 --> 01:29:06,880
informs the music because i feel like

2295
01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:08,560
part of what happens a lot of times and

2296
01:29:11,669 --> 01:29:10,320
and it's kind of an interesting thing

2297
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:11,679
music you know it's cultural

2298
01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:13,360
appropriation it's kind of a buzz word

2299
01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:15,520
right it's a big deal right now and you

2300
01:29:19,669 --> 01:29:18,000
see it happen all the time and in music

2301
01:29:21,910 --> 01:29:19,679
it happens the most probably and it's

2302
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:21,920
probably the most accepted because music

2303
01:29:25,910 --> 01:29:24,159
by its nature is a conversation right

2304
01:29:28,629 --> 01:29:25,920
people have been influencing each other

2305
01:29:31,110 --> 01:29:28,639
and trading sounds and ideas musical

2306
01:29:33,350 --> 01:29:31,120
ideas since the before recorded history

2307
01:29:36,470 --> 01:29:33,360
so i feel like it's it's kind of the

2308
01:29:38,790 --> 01:29:36,480
most accepted and saying that it's very

2309
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:38,800
important to not just like okey dokey it

2310
01:29:43,590 --> 01:29:40,639
because look at like a great example

2311
01:29:45,669 --> 01:29:43,600
right uh you know deep forest right

2312
01:29:48,070 --> 01:29:45,679
nobody knew those guys they took samples

2313
01:29:50,310 --> 01:29:48,080
of the pygmies and made millions of

2314
01:29:52,390 --> 01:29:50,320
dollars on those records and the pygmies

2315
01:29:53,590 --> 01:29:52,400
never saw any of that money right and

2316
01:29:55,430 --> 01:29:53,600
now there you have an example where they

2317
01:29:57,669 --> 01:29:55,440
sampled they recorded their actual

2318
01:29:58,950 --> 01:29:57,679
voices now you have examples of course

2319
01:30:00,550 --> 01:29:58,960
if they played an instrument that the

2320
01:30:02,070 --> 01:30:00,560
pigs played and but they were playing

2321
01:30:03,189 --> 01:30:02,080
and they record it then it's not as big

2322
01:30:05,270 --> 01:30:03,199
a deal but you know what i'm saying

2323
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:05,280
there's kind of a political piece there

2324
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:06,960
that's really important to note and so

2325
01:30:11,590 --> 01:30:09,760
for me i really find it key and whenever

2326
01:30:13,189 --> 01:30:11,600
i can engage my audience with and kind

2327
01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:13,199
of talk about the history and the story

2328
01:30:16,709 --> 01:30:15,520
behind it or if i do that you know off

2329
01:30:18,149 --> 01:30:16,719
of stage

2330
01:30:20,390 --> 01:30:18,159
i really love doing that because i feel

2331
01:30:22,390 --> 01:30:20,400
it's really important to share where

2332
01:30:24,629 --> 01:30:22,400
these why this instrument exists why

2333
01:30:26,870 --> 01:30:24,639
this tradition exists why is it that it

2334
01:30:28,629 --> 01:30:26,880
makes you feel this way like why is it

2335
01:30:30,790 --> 01:30:28,639
when you play a dig just to use that

2336
01:30:32,790 --> 01:30:30,800
example again you know you feel

2337
01:30:34,629 --> 01:30:32,800
something energetically shift and i

2338
01:30:36,390 --> 01:30:34,639
don't care who you are i mean you see it

2339
01:30:38,709 --> 01:30:36,400
even in animals can detect it you know

2340
01:30:41,189 --> 01:30:38,719
dogs and cats like they feel it there's

2341
01:30:44,229 --> 01:30:41,199
a an energetic shift in that vibration

2342
01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:44,239
that's moving something um

2343
01:30:47,430 --> 01:30:45,520
let me jump in right there we got to

2344
01:30:50,149 --> 01:30:47,440
take a break right there we'll pick up

2345
01:30:51,590 --> 01:30:50,159
right where we are live i i promise i

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01:30:53,510 --> 01:30:51,600
promise we'll go right back to did you

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01:30:55,030 --> 01:30:53,520
redo after this short break our guest

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tonight poor on ghee i am your host

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i guess tonight pour on ghee

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we're going to talk a little et now

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we've got to go into that direction but

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that's live

2443
01:36:09,430 --> 01:36:05,840
that's real musicians right if you know

2444
01:36:11,510 --> 01:36:09,440
what i mean there's something about that

2445
01:36:15,350 --> 01:36:11,520
that stirs the soul

2446
01:36:16,950 --> 01:36:15,360
and uh it's looping i don't want anybody

2447
01:36:20,310 --> 01:36:16,960
to get confused here

2448
01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:20,320
looping is not playing

2449
01:36:24,070 --> 01:36:22,080
samples

2450
01:36:26,229 --> 01:36:24,080
it's a real performance that is being

2451
01:36:28,310 --> 01:36:26,239
captured in real time it's it's it's

2452
01:36:29,430 --> 01:36:28,320
it's live artistic

2453
01:36:31,750 --> 01:36:29,440
uh

2454
01:36:33,590 --> 01:36:31,760
things that are happening live right in

2455
01:36:35,590 --> 01:36:33,600
front of you and that there's a big

2456
01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:35,600
difference there and there's something

2457
01:36:38,950 --> 01:36:37,040
you know and i think we've gotten away

2458
01:36:42,870 --> 01:36:38,960
from that somewhat you know the live

2459
01:36:45,030 --> 01:36:42,880
aspect of music uh uh the performance

2460
01:36:46,870 --> 01:36:45,040
because it's so easy for and i'm not

2461
01:36:50,310 --> 01:36:46,880
saying it's not creative

2462
01:36:53,270 --> 01:36:50,320
um you can go in with with samples and

2463
01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:53,280
create uh some pretty amazing stuff

2464
01:36:56,149 --> 01:36:54,960
some beastie boys albums out there that

2465
01:36:57,830 --> 01:36:56,159
i think are some of the best things that

2466
01:36:58,790 --> 01:36:57,840
i've we're ever done

2467
01:37:01,430 --> 01:36:58,800
but

2468
01:37:02,870 --> 01:37:01,440
there's something about that you need

2469
01:37:05,910 --> 01:37:02,880
you need to have

2470
01:37:07,910 --> 01:37:05,920
you know the live performance captured

2471
01:37:10,790 --> 01:37:07,920
that is a completely different thing

2472
01:37:13,350 --> 01:37:10,800
than firing off a sample with a keyboard

2473
01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:13,360
totally no i agree with that a lot i

2474
01:37:17,590 --> 01:37:15,280
think there's something about the the

2475
01:37:19,590 --> 01:37:17,600
energy that is caught when you when it's

2476
01:37:21,189 --> 01:37:19,600
when it's made right there versus

2477
01:37:22,709 --> 01:37:21,199
something you sample that's actually

2478
01:37:24,550 --> 01:37:22,719
from another time and place if that

2479
01:37:26,070 --> 01:37:24,560
makes sense it's kind of like it's

2480
01:37:28,030 --> 01:37:26,080
that's kind of dead

2481
01:37:29,830 --> 01:37:28,040
but you can make it alive again by

2482
01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:29,840
recontextualizing it by you know

2483
01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:31,199
bringing it to the present moment like

2484
01:37:33,910 --> 01:37:32,800
the way a dj does you know you're

2485
01:37:36,229 --> 01:37:33,920
playing a track that was already

2486
01:37:38,070 --> 01:37:36,239
recorded but but and you're kind of

2487
01:37:40,390 --> 01:37:38,080
recontextualizing and making it relevant

2488
01:37:43,350 --> 01:37:40,400
like fresh again in a way but it'll

2489
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:43,360
never be as fresh as what's made right

2490
01:37:47,030 --> 01:37:45,600
there like with the sonics of the room

2491
01:37:48,790 --> 01:37:47,040
with the people who are breathing there

2492
01:37:50,709 --> 01:37:48,800
with the guy yelling in the back with

2493
01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:50,719
the lady who dropped a drink like

2494
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:52,239
there's something about

2495
01:37:55,750 --> 01:37:54,480
all of that right and the risk this is

2496
01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:55,760
kind of the element too i think people

2497
01:37:59,510 --> 01:37:57,520
miss there's something about when you

2498
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:59,520
have to take a risk because when you get

2499
01:38:01,830 --> 01:38:00,960
up there and you're with those

2500
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:01,840
instruments you know and those

2501
01:38:05,030 --> 01:38:03,440
instruments are living breathing kind of

2502
01:38:06,870 --> 01:38:05,040
beings you know and some of them they're

2503
01:38:09,109 --> 01:38:06,880
not in tune or whatever they're having a

2504
01:38:11,510 --> 01:38:09,119
bad day you're having a bad like all of

2505
01:38:13,189 --> 01:38:11,520
that there's a risk and people can feel

2506
01:38:15,430 --> 01:38:13,199
that energy that something could go

2507
01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:15,440
wrong at any given moment and it's all

2508
01:38:19,430 --> 01:38:17,280
about your professionalism i think the

2509
01:38:21,189 --> 01:38:19,440
real masters are the ones who can take

2510
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:21,199
those mistakes right and when something

2511
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:23,520
goes horribly wrong all of a sudden and

2512
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:26,320
turn it into a success and flip it on

2513
01:38:30,149 --> 01:38:28,480
its head and i really that's that's

2514
01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:30,159
going back to bobby mcferrin man he is a

2515
01:38:34,310 --> 01:38:32,080
master at that who can take a whole

2516
01:38:35,830 --> 01:38:34,320
audience and just literally make them

2517
01:38:38,070 --> 01:38:35,840
part of the instrument make them part of

2518
01:38:40,229 --> 01:38:38,080
the looper and i feel like that's one of

2519
01:38:42,629 --> 01:38:40,239
the things i love to do as well um in my

2520
01:38:44,310 --> 01:38:42,639
performances and you know when in my

2521
01:38:45,990 --> 01:38:44,320
teaching too i you know i lead retreats

2522
01:38:47,910 --> 01:38:46,000
as well where i help people really

2523
01:38:49,669 --> 01:38:47,920
access their own musical expression and

2524
01:38:51,189 --> 01:38:49,679
creative expression and whether they're

2525
01:38:53,030 --> 01:38:51,199
musicians or not

2526
01:38:54,149 --> 01:38:53,040
and for me it's it's really about

2527
01:38:56,870 --> 01:38:54,159
getting them

2528
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:56,880
connected into the ability to be in the

2529
01:39:00,709 --> 01:38:58,800
present moment to get into that flow

2530
01:39:03,109 --> 01:39:00,719
state because when we can do it no

2531
01:39:04,870 --> 01:39:03,119
matter what our walk of life is you know

2532
01:39:06,790 --> 01:39:04,880
it really prepares us to face the

2533
01:39:08,709 --> 01:39:06,800
uncertainty of life because that's the

2534
01:39:10,149 --> 01:39:08,719
one thing we all know is the only thing

2535
01:39:11,590 --> 01:39:10,159
that's certain is that nothing is

2536
01:39:14,950 --> 01:39:11,600
certain

2537
01:39:17,270 --> 01:39:14,960
just the last just the last note

2538
01:39:19,510 --> 01:39:17,280
just the last that's it it's not it's

2539
01:39:23,109 --> 01:39:19,520
not everything else is the last one you

2540
01:39:24,629 --> 01:39:23,119
played yeah and what's the next one

2541
01:39:26,310 --> 01:39:24,639
don't worry about two notes from now and

2542
01:39:28,870 --> 01:39:26,320
actually bobby mcferrin says this bobby

2543
01:39:30,870 --> 01:39:28,880
says he says look improvisation is

2544
01:39:33,430 --> 01:39:30,880
actually not so hard he's like all you

2545
01:39:34,629 --> 01:39:33,440
got to do is worry about the next note

2546
01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:34,639
not the note

2547
01:39:36,950 --> 01:39:35,920
not even the last note he's like don't

2548
01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:36,960
worry about the last note because it

2549
01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:38,719
could have been a whatever note but he's

2550
01:39:42,229 --> 01:39:40,400
like the next note you just focus on

2551
01:39:44,070 --> 01:39:42,239
that not two notes from now and not

2552
01:39:45,590 --> 01:39:44,080
three notes ago as long as you're there

2553
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:45,600
in that present moment working on the

2554
01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:47,040
next one he's like

2555
01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:48,639
you'll you'll go somewhere you'll go

2556
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:49,679
somewhere and hopefully that place is

2557
01:39:53,030 --> 01:39:51,280
beautiful he's like sometimes i go

2558
01:39:54,629 --> 01:39:53,040
places and it's kind of whack but you

2559
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:54,639
know he's like but the thing is the more

2560
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:56,639
you do it and you kind of exercise that

2561
01:40:01,109 --> 01:39:58,719
muscle of improvisation he's like it

2562
01:40:03,189 --> 01:40:01,119
gets easier and actually you start to

2563
01:40:05,189 --> 01:40:03,199
really cultivate this ability to to get

2564
01:40:07,270 --> 01:40:05,199
on your surfboard you know proverbial

2565
01:40:09,990 --> 01:40:07,280
surfboard right and go anywhere and

2566
01:40:11,910 --> 01:40:10,000
create amazing things so i just i really

2567
01:40:14,149 --> 01:40:11,920
encourage anybody this is good for

2568
01:40:15,590 --> 01:40:14,159
anybody because it applies to everything

2569
01:40:18,229 --> 01:40:15,600
in life you know and it really makes you

2570
01:40:20,390 --> 01:40:18,239
flexible makes you the neuro plasticity

2571
01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:20,400
in your mind you know more activated uh

2572
01:40:25,270 --> 01:40:22,000
keeps you younger keeps you more you

2573
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:25,280
know agile so i i really um yeah i can't

2574
01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:27,199
stress it enough man everybody really

2575
01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:28,719
needs to try to improvise with whatever

2576
01:40:36,310 --> 01:40:31,840
they're doing rita and i uh last month

2577
01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:36,320
went to a flamenco concert right dancers

2578
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:37,679
yeah and

2579
01:40:43,030 --> 01:40:39,520
what most people don't know when it

2580
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:43,040
comes to flamenco that's 100 improvised

2581
01:40:47,030 --> 01:40:45,760
and so you've got the dancer is

2582
01:40:51,030 --> 01:40:47,040
improvising

2583
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:51,040
the band is reacting to the dancer

2584
01:40:58,790 --> 01:40:54,880
they need to lock in subconsciously

2585
01:41:00,950 --> 01:40:58,800
right and when it is good it is about as

2586
01:41:04,390 --> 01:41:00,960
good as anything that you can go and see

2587
01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:04,400
live because they are in the zone you

2588
01:41:08,390 --> 01:41:06,000
get in the zone

2589
01:41:11,510 --> 01:41:08,400
you know and you can feel it coming and

2590
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:11,520
everybody is locked on man it is it is a

2591
01:41:15,270 --> 01:41:13,040
beautiful thing to see when

2592
01:41:16,229 --> 01:41:15,280
improvisation is correct it's just so

2593
01:41:18,950 --> 01:41:16,239
wonderful

2594
01:41:21,750 --> 01:41:18,960
all right now um i just got a tweet

2595
01:41:22,709 --> 01:41:21,760
okay and this uh is a pretty interesting

2596
01:41:24,709 --> 01:41:22,719
one

2597
01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:24,719
in that do you

2598
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:26,880
you're gonna love this do you have any

2599
01:41:32,790 --> 01:41:29,760
night watching spots in arizona where

2600
01:41:34,310 --> 01:41:32,800
you live uh to go and check out activity

2601
01:41:37,189 --> 01:41:34,320
in the sky

2602
01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:37,199
wow that's a great question um

2603
01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:39,360
so sedona is kind of a hot spot where i

2604
01:41:43,830 --> 01:41:41,360
live is in the red rocks here sedona and

2605
01:41:46,709 --> 01:41:43,840
it's it's it's an amazing huge you know

2606
01:41:48,070 --> 01:41:46,719
planetarium observatory here so there's

2607
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:48,080
lots of that and there's actually a lot

2608
01:41:53,750 --> 01:41:50,800
of people here who who really have seen

2609
01:41:55,750 --> 01:41:53,760
a lot here i personally though my spot

2610
01:41:57,910 --> 01:41:55,760
if i were to tell you the spot which is

2611
01:42:00,950 --> 01:41:57,920
kind of a hidden spot but um

2612
01:42:02,790 --> 01:42:00,960
it's down in south western arizona near

2613
01:42:05,430 --> 01:42:02,800
the border just past the san carlos

2614
01:42:07,350 --> 01:42:05,440
apache res in this little place called

2615
01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:07,360
eden arizona

2616
01:42:11,030 --> 01:42:08,800
and there's some hot springs there that

2617
01:42:12,470 --> 01:42:11,040
are really magical and that

2618
01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:12,480
been there since

2619
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:14,080
back geronimo used to soak in these

2620
01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:16,480
waters really really amazing sacred

2621
01:42:19,430 --> 01:42:18,239
place sacred land and it's private

2622
01:42:21,510 --> 01:42:19,440
property so you know you kind of you

2623
01:42:23,030 --> 01:42:21,520
have to come on a retreat or with one of

2624
01:42:25,030 --> 01:42:23,040
the groups to go there but

2625
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:25,040
i tell you what the most activity i've

2626
01:42:29,270 --> 01:42:26,960
ever seen in the sky has been there and

2627
01:42:32,149 --> 01:42:29,280
i've had multiple instances with groups

2628
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:32,159
of people all like you see that yeah you

2629
01:42:36,310 --> 01:42:34,080
saw that like we all sighed

2630
01:42:38,310 --> 01:42:36,320
and and just incredible phenomenons

2631
01:42:41,030 --> 01:42:38,320
there and that's been my that's i would

2632
01:42:44,550 --> 01:42:41,040
say someone to know my spot

2633
01:42:45,990 --> 01:42:44,560
that's the one and share with me uh down

2634
01:42:48,950 --> 01:42:46,000
in eden

2635
01:42:51,030 --> 01:42:48,960
i i i can only imagine you've had you

2636
01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:51,040
know literally hundreds of things that

2637
01:42:53,910 --> 01:42:52,719
you have seen down there

2638
01:42:55,990 --> 01:42:53,920
but

2639
01:42:58,950 --> 01:42:56,000
because when it jumps it jumps right we

2640
01:43:00,229 --> 01:42:58,960
we know that's right but is there one

2641
01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:00,239
event

2642
01:43:06,310 --> 01:43:02,719
one sighting that just stands out above

2643
01:43:10,950 --> 01:43:08,830
yeah there's one there was one night in

2644
01:43:12,629 --> 01:43:10,960
particular where we're all sitting here

2645
01:43:14,470 --> 01:43:12,639
we're probably a group of about five to

2646
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:14,480
eight people and we were sitting in one

2647
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:16,159
of the pools it was known as the goddess

2648
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:18,000
poor the source ports it's the top of

2649
01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:19,600
these pools and it's amazing and you're

2650
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:21,040
you're out there i mean

2651
01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:22,960
nothing out there i mean it's like

2652
01:43:27,109 --> 01:43:25,280
totally open sky and you're sitting in

2653
01:43:28,709 --> 01:43:27,119
this beautiful hot you know water that's

2654
01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:28,719
bubbling up out of the earth right there

2655
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:30,719
oh you're asking for trouble

2656
01:43:35,830 --> 01:43:32,560
oh yeah

2657
01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:38,310
we're sitting there and man you know

2658
01:43:43,430 --> 01:43:40,719
literally it was just like these balls

2659
01:43:45,189 --> 01:43:43,440
of light and we had about four of them

2660
01:43:47,270 --> 01:43:45,199
and they just go

2661
01:43:49,590 --> 01:43:47,280
and they just like appear like no no

2662
01:43:51,910 --> 01:43:49,600
like passing by they just like appear

2663
01:43:54,629 --> 01:43:51,920
and we're all sitting there just like

2664
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:54,639
you know oh this is it like you know

2665
01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:56,639
and we're watching these these lights

2666
01:44:00,870 --> 01:43:57,920
and they're just they're hanging out

2667
01:44:02,950 --> 01:44:00,880
there very steady um and you know

2668
01:44:06,149 --> 01:44:02,960
everyone's like yeah you see that yeah

2669
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:06,159
you know it's like pinch me um and we're

2670
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:07,840
watching this and this goes on for

2671
01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:10,719
probably a good five to eight minutes

2672
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:13,280
and then just like that

2673
01:44:16,470 --> 01:44:15,679
they just they disappear what color were

2674
01:44:20,550 --> 01:44:16,480
they

2675
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:20,560
it was like an amber light i would say

2676
01:44:23,430 --> 01:44:22,320
you know closest thing to amber i could

2677
01:44:25,669 --> 01:44:23,440
think of and

2678
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:25,679
uh just steady like a steady glow and

2679
01:44:28,629 --> 01:44:27,280
then guess what this is the really

2680
01:44:29,830 --> 01:44:28,639
trippy part

2681
01:44:32,550 --> 01:44:29,840
about

2682
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:32,560
eight minutes passes by or so if that

2683
01:44:38,629 --> 01:44:36,400
and all of a sudden we see these f-16s

2684
01:44:40,629 --> 01:44:38,639
jetting around like kind of scrambled

2685
01:44:42,790 --> 01:44:40,639
like going back and forth across the sky

2686
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:42,800
right where those lights were right

2687
01:44:46,390 --> 01:44:44,880
and we're watching them we're like oh

2688
01:44:47,270 --> 01:44:46,400
you know

2689
01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:47,280
wow

2690
01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:48,960
right that just like that was

2691
01:44:52,229 --> 01:44:50,800
mind-boggling you know that one to this

2692
01:44:54,070 --> 01:44:52,239
day that's probably the most incredible

2693
01:44:56,709 --> 01:44:54,080
ones we were just like yeah you know

2694
01:44:59,669 --> 01:44:56,719
what were you were you uh taking me to

2695
01:45:01,669 --> 01:44:59,679
that moment were you guys talking about

2696
01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:01,679
hoping to see something were you

2697
01:45:07,270 --> 01:45:04,800
consciously uh making an attempt to

2698
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:07,280
connect

2699
01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:08,719
before and a half

2700
01:45:12,550 --> 01:45:10,320
just kind of holding space you know just

2701
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:12,560
like really in in awe

2702
01:45:15,270 --> 01:45:13,760
and and

2703
01:45:16,950 --> 01:45:15,280
yeah it was it was like a moment of

2704
01:45:18,390 --> 01:45:16,960
silence like no one was speaking really

2705
01:45:20,870 --> 01:45:18,400
a word while it was you know other than

2706
01:45:22,629 --> 01:45:20,880
the initial like you'll see that and

2707
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:22,639
then and then we just were just kind of

2708
01:45:25,910 --> 01:45:23,840
holding space it was one of those

2709
01:45:27,189 --> 01:45:25,920
moments too where like time kind of

2710
01:45:29,109 --> 01:45:27,199
froze

2711
01:45:30,790 --> 01:45:29,119
it felt like right

2712
01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:30,800
right right

2713
01:45:33,830 --> 01:45:32,480
you could hear the trickle of the water

2714
01:45:35,669 --> 01:45:33,840
like seeping up out of the ground like

2715
01:45:38,149 --> 01:45:35,679
into the pool where we were and it was

2716
01:45:40,310 --> 01:45:38,159
just everyone's just there in this you

2717
01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:40,320
know just feeling oh yeah these are our

2718
01:45:42,870 --> 01:45:41,760
relatives you know i mean we're not

2719
01:45:45,750 --> 01:45:42,880
alone

2720
01:45:48,149 --> 01:45:45,760
and is there is the star nation and and

2721
01:45:50,550 --> 01:45:48,159
thinking about it now

2722
01:45:54,149 --> 01:45:50,560
is there any doubt

2723
01:45:56,870 --> 01:45:54,159
that that was in response to you that

2724
01:45:59,430 --> 01:45:56,880
they were they were saying hello it was

2725
01:46:01,030 --> 01:45:59,440
a wink it was a drive-by

2726
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:01,040
yeah that's that's a really good

2727
01:46:05,590 --> 01:46:03,600
question you know i i feel

2728
01:46:07,109 --> 01:46:05,600
the space that everyone was in so we

2729
01:46:09,189 --> 01:46:07,119
just finished when that all happened we

2730
01:46:11,510 --> 01:46:09,199
just finished a a retreat there we used

2731
01:46:12,709 --> 01:46:11,520
to host these retreats out at eden hot

2732
01:46:14,070 --> 01:46:12,719
springs where we bring out various

2733
01:46:16,790 --> 01:46:14,080
speakers um i don't know if you've ever

2734
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:16,800
heard of david wolfe um of course you

2735
01:46:22,149 --> 01:46:19,199
were hanging out with david wolfe

2736
01:46:24,070 --> 01:46:22,159
yeah i want to hang out with you

2737
01:46:25,830 --> 01:46:24,080
he's an old friend he used to run these

2738
01:46:27,430 --> 01:46:25,840
retreats out there where we would also

2739
01:46:29,109 --> 01:46:27,440
work with him and then other people

2740
01:46:30,950 --> 01:46:29,119
would bring out different speakers like

2741
01:46:33,750 --> 01:46:30,960
you know various people from daniel

2742
01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,760
pinchback different authors

2743
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:35,360
yeah really cool people really really

2744
01:46:38,229 --> 01:46:36,960
need kind of forward-thinking people and

2745
01:46:41,189 --> 01:46:38,239
they'd come out to eden because it's an

2746
01:46:43,750 --> 01:46:41,199
amazing place and we do like heavy talks

2747
01:46:45,990 --> 01:46:43,760
we do music i play for people in the big

2748
01:46:48,070 --> 01:46:46,000
pool which is like this it's the largest

2749
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:48,080
outdoor body of water bigger than an

2750
01:46:51,910 --> 01:46:50,080
olympic-sized pool in all the southwest

2751
01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:51,920
maybe in the country that is heated

2752
01:46:55,990 --> 01:46:53,760
naturally and it's basically like a

2753
01:46:57,189 --> 01:46:56,000
massive float tank it's amazing and so

2754
01:46:59,109 --> 01:46:57,199
you're sitting out there just under the

2755
01:47:00,790 --> 01:46:59,119
galaxy look at the milky way floating on

2756
01:47:03,189 --> 01:47:00,800
your back you know in this giant float

2757
01:47:04,709 --> 01:47:03,199
tank and and then i'm playing music to

2758
01:47:06,709 --> 01:47:04,719
people it's my favorite place to play

2759
01:47:08,629 --> 01:47:06,719
music and by the way clothing is

2760
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:08,639
optional usually everyone's naked

2761
01:47:11,590 --> 01:47:09,920
for those out there don't i hope that

2762
01:47:14,070 --> 01:47:11,600
doesn't freak anyone out but um it's

2763
01:47:15,270 --> 01:47:14,080
amazing so my favorite gig is i i like

2764
01:47:16,790 --> 01:47:15,280
to joke about this because you know

2765
01:47:18,550 --> 01:47:16,800
people used to tell you in school where

2766
01:47:20,149 --> 01:47:18,560
you'd learn how to speak to a public

2767
01:47:22,870 --> 01:47:20,159
audience they'd be like oh visualize

2768
01:47:25,030 --> 01:47:22,880
everyone's naked and so the funniest

2769
01:47:27,189 --> 01:47:25,040
thing for me is playing music for a pool

2770
01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:27,199
full of naked people

2771
01:47:31,109 --> 01:47:28,639
and i'm like wait i can't use that

2772
01:47:32,950 --> 01:47:31,119
visualization this is kind of funny

2773
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:32,960
but it's incredible you know and i'm and

2774
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:34,320
we have the sub set up so they're

2775
01:47:38,870 --> 01:47:36,159
sending these these sub frequencies into

2776
01:47:40,870 --> 01:47:38,880
the water which just is incredible you

2777
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:40,880
know you get to experience i think some

2778
01:47:45,189 --> 01:47:42,880
of my best music is there because i'm so

2779
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:45,199
tuned into the land there and obviously

2780
01:47:48,870 --> 01:47:47,040
the star people are super activated

2781
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:48,880
there and getting to play music you know

2782
01:47:53,189 --> 01:47:51,280
in water that's coming right out of the

2783
01:47:55,270 --> 01:47:53,199
earth like that you know

2784
01:47:57,189 --> 01:47:55,280
have you have you when when you go

2785
01:47:59,510 --> 01:47:57,199
through an experience like that have you

2786
01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:59,520
have you made contact

2787
01:48:04,070 --> 01:48:01,440
have you have you done a communication

2788
01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:04,080
with yourself

2789
01:48:09,030 --> 01:48:06,800
just just psychically just kind of yeah

2790
01:48:11,030 --> 01:48:09,040
yes yeah yeah for me

2791
01:48:12,229 --> 01:48:11,040
you know it just it feels like for

2792
01:48:13,669 --> 01:48:12,239
instance when that happens so we just

2793
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:13,679
finished one of those retreats we were

2794
01:48:16,709 --> 01:48:14,960
kind of it was like some of the staff

2795
01:48:18,070 --> 01:48:16,719
like kind of the crew you know that were

2796
01:48:19,590 --> 01:48:18,080
there at the end and just having our

2797
01:48:21,430 --> 01:48:19,600
hangout night like before we were all

2798
01:48:23,030 --> 01:48:21,440
going to part our ways

2799
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:23,040
and you know

2800
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:25,280
we were i was very deep in a meditative

2801
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:27,920
space like i was and i i totally you

2802
01:48:32,629 --> 01:48:30,400
know felt this presence felt this

2803
01:48:33,910 --> 01:48:32,639
connection it was very much felt like

2804
01:48:35,109 --> 01:48:33,920
there was a connection they were

2805
01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:35,119
responding to us because we're kind of

2806
01:48:38,149 --> 01:48:36,480
out in the middle of nowhere there's

2807
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:38,159
nobody else around kind of a thing so

2808
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:40,320
it's it felt very much like there was a

2809
01:48:45,669 --> 01:48:42,960
reason why they chose to appear to us

2810
01:48:48,149 --> 01:48:45,679
right there you know at that time and um

2811
01:48:50,629 --> 01:48:48,159
yeah i i personally

2812
01:48:53,189 --> 01:48:50,639
felt like it was just for me in my own

2813
01:48:54,390 --> 01:48:53,199
trajectory it felt very much like this

2814
01:48:56,390 --> 01:48:54,400
reminder

2815
01:48:57,669 --> 01:48:56,400
that we are not alone a

2816
01:48:58,870 --> 01:48:57,679
um and b

2817
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:58,880
to trust

2818
01:49:02,470 --> 01:49:00,480
you know that there's a lot of shifts

2819
01:49:04,149 --> 01:49:02,480
happening right now on the planet and

2820
01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:04,159
you know there's a lot of fear around

2821
01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:05,520
those shifts and these changes that

2822
01:49:09,830 --> 01:49:08,320
we're we're we are part of and and that

2823
01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:09,840
also you know

2824
01:49:14,709 --> 01:49:12,159
yeah co-creation with we're in this

2825
01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:14,719
dialogue and i feel like my personal hit

2826
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:17,440
in that in that moment was like

2827
01:49:22,149 --> 01:49:19,840
it it is okay this is all unfolding as

2828
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:22,159
it needs to continue to do the work that

2829
01:49:25,430 --> 01:49:23,360
you're doing

2830
01:49:27,189 --> 01:49:25,440
because that is helping this greater

2831
01:49:29,590 --> 01:49:27,199
plan unfold

2832
01:49:31,510 --> 01:49:29,600
you know and the for the you know the

2833
01:49:33,990 --> 01:49:31,520
skeptics out there that are that are

2834
01:49:37,510 --> 01:49:34,000
listening to this that just don't get it

2835
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:37,520
the only thing that will solve the issue

2836
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:38,719
for them

2837
01:49:43,830 --> 01:49:42,400
is to have that moment happen when

2838
01:49:45,669 --> 01:49:43,840
something

2839
01:49:47,109 --> 01:49:45,679
uh appears

2840
01:49:49,830 --> 01:49:47,119
on command

2841
01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:49,840
because it happens all the time but they

2842
01:49:54,709 --> 01:49:52,159
haven't witnessed it right and so they

2843
01:49:57,350 --> 01:49:54,719
did they just think this is uh we have

2844
01:50:00,790 --> 01:49:57,360
mental issues right or whatever

2845
01:50:04,709 --> 01:50:02,629
with eight people there and and then the

2846
01:50:05,990 --> 01:50:04,719
f-16s rolling through right

2847
01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:06,000
there was like no doubt like that was

2848
01:50:09,189 --> 01:50:07,440
kind of like for me you know you could

2849
01:50:11,669 --> 01:50:09,199
be skeptical like oh maybe it was a

2850
01:50:14,390 --> 01:50:11,679
flares it was like no that was it was

2851
01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:14,400
clear as it could ever be it was what it

2852
01:50:20,790 --> 01:50:17,520
was you know we were out we're out in uh

2853
01:50:22,629 --> 01:50:20,800
uh we were out in uh 29 palms joshua

2854
01:50:24,709 --> 01:50:22,639
tree right in the middle of the desert

2855
01:50:27,750 --> 01:50:24,719
and we got about i don't know 10 15 of

2856
01:50:29,430 --> 01:50:27,760
us together and we're out on this patio

2857
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:29,440
yeah out in the i'm

2858
01:50:32,870 --> 01:50:31,119
literally in the middle of the desert by

2859
01:50:36,629 --> 01:50:32,880
the way nothing around us

2860
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:36,639
and somebody says hey man it's about 10

2861
01:50:41,109 --> 01:50:39,040
o'clock at night dark nothing but dark

2862
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:41,119
desert around us even wouldn't it be

2863
01:50:48,070 --> 01:50:44,320
cool man if if a ufo just showed up

2864
01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:48,080
and at that exact

2865
01:50:52,470 --> 01:50:49,440
instant

2866
01:50:54,870 --> 01:50:52,480
not 10 minutes right i mean right then

2867
01:50:57,430 --> 01:50:54,880
out in the blackness of the desert this

2868
01:51:00,629 --> 01:50:57,440
white ball

2869
01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:00,639
shot off of the desert floor straight up

2870
01:51:05,350 --> 01:51:03,760
straight straight straight line

2871
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:05,360
into the stars

2872
01:51:10,149 --> 01:51:08,400
and disappeared and it lasted about two

2873
01:51:13,750 --> 01:51:10,159
seconds

2874
01:51:15,669 --> 01:51:13,760
right on command wow

2875
01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:15,679
so the next day

2876
01:51:22,070 --> 01:51:19,280
uh uh foreign the next day i i walk out

2877
01:51:23,669 --> 01:51:22,080
of the cabin and i look out across the

2878
01:51:25,270 --> 01:51:23,679
desert just trying to get my bearings

2879
01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:25,280
where this thing was

2880
01:51:29,590 --> 01:51:28,159
and there is nothing there man nothing

2881
01:51:31,430 --> 01:51:29,600
but cactus

2882
01:51:34,470 --> 01:51:31,440
all the way to the mountains

2883
01:51:36,070 --> 01:51:34,480
and i'm just looking just wow that was

2884
01:51:38,310 --> 01:51:36,080
cool but again

2885
01:51:40,070 --> 01:51:38,320
bring a skeptic out at that moment when

2886
01:51:42,070 --> 01:51:40,080
something like that happens

2887
01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:42,080
so you know and that's how you deal with

2888
01:51:45,030 --> 01:51:43,520
them and that's the only thing that they

2889
01:51:46,149 --> 01:51:45,040
will understand

2890
01:51:48,149 --> 01:51:46,159
you know

2891
01:51:49,750 --> 01:51:48,159
yeah i'm with you they got to have the

2892
01:51:51,430 --> 01:51:49,760
experience i think themselves it's one

2893
01:51:53,270 --> 01:51:51,440
of those things right it's like once

2894
01:51:55,189 --> 01:51:53,280
you've had that experience because like

2895
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:55,199
i've always i've always believed you

2896
01:51:59,510 --> 01:51:57,119
know just just just knowing what i know

2897
01:52:01,270 --> 01:51:59,520
about cosmology and understanding

2898
01:52:03,030 --> 01:52:01,280
astrophysics and understanding how big

2899
01:52:05,030 --> 01:52:03,040
the universe you know what we're dealing

2900
01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:05,040
with here i mean carl sagan right would

2901
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:07,520
say it the best it's like just the sheer

2902
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:08,800
mat you know

2903
01:52:12,310 --> 01:52:10,639
size of what we're dealing with the

2904
01:52:16,070 --> 01:52:12,320
likelihood of us being the only life in

2905
01:52:18,149 --> 01:52:16,080
the whole universe is highly unlikely

2906
01:52:19,270 --> 01:52:18,159
well you know and what carl sagan used

2907
01:52:22,470 --> 01:52:19,280
to say

2908
01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:22,480
if he was around today with what we now

2909
01:52:27,189 --> 01:52:24,159
know

2910
01:52:30,070 --> 01:52:27,199
he would even take that that whole uh

2911
01:52:32,470 --> 01:52:30,080
mindset way out to another level he's to

2912
01:52:35,430 --> 01:52:32,480
save billions and billions right well

2913
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:35,440
now he would say trillions and trillions

2914
01:52:40,229 --> 01:52:37,440
it's a whole other party you know our

2915
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:40,239
milky way has got you know a hundred

2916
01:52:44,950 --> 01:52:42,480
billion planets

2917
01:52:47,510 --> 01:52:44,960
back when carl sagan was alive we were

2918
01:52:49,589 --> 01:52:47,520
wondering if there was one

2919
01:52:52,070 --> 01:52:49,599
right right let alone if there was water

2920
01:52:55,109 --> 01:52:52,080
out off outside of the earth right now

2921
01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:55,119
we found clouds of water floating around

2922
01:52:59,589 --> 01:52:56,800
in space but yeah

2923
01:53:01,109 --> 01:52:59,599
and what do you think ultimately is is

2924
01:53:03,669 --> 01:53:01,119
is going on

2925
01:53:06,390 --> 01:53:03,679
um with with the connection and with

2926
01:53:07,510 --> 01:53:06,400
consciousness and with the ability to go

2927
01:53:10,550 --> 01:53:07,520
to these

2928
01:53:13,589 --> 01:53:10,560
other dimensions uh not only with

2929
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:13,599
ayahuasca and dmt but through ceremony

2930
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:14,880
or through

2931
01:53:18,709 --> 01:53:16,320
meditation

2932
01:53:20,149 --> 01:53:18,719
and science is now proving that this is

2933
01:53:22,870 --> 01:53:20,159
real too but

2934
01:53:24,550 --> 01:53:22,880
with the things like the orange orbs

2935
01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:24,560
that you have seen and the things that

2936
01:53:29,990 --> 01:53:27,760
are going on now is is e.t trying to

2937
01:53:32,070 --> 01:53:30,000
send us a message is is there something

2938
01:53:36,070 --> 01:53:32,080
going on that eventually the man isn't

2939
01:53:38,229 --> 01:53:36,080
going to be able to deny anymore um

2940
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:38,239
yeah you know there's wow i mean that's

2941
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:38,880
a

2942
01:53:44,950 --> 01:53:41,920
uh the one

2943
01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:44,960
i think for me what i what i feel it you

2944
01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:46,320
know there's kind of like what i know

2945
01:53:48,790 --> 01:53:47,520
and then there's like what i feel

2946
01:53:52,629 --> 01:53:48,800
intuitively

2947
01:53:55,189 --> 01:53:52,639
um and ultimately i feel and it doesn't

2948
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:55,199
neither of those really matter if that

2949
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:56,719
makes sense like i i feel because

2950
01:54:00,550 --> 01:53:58,560
ultimately it's kind of come back to it

2951
01:54:02,310 --> 01:54:00,560
and it all comes back to

2952
01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:02,320
a really simple teaching that i think

2953
01:54:05,589 --> 01:54:04,000
you can you can find it in all our

2954
01:54:07,750 --> 01:54:05,599
spiritual traditions no matter whether

2955
01:54:09,510 --> 01:54:07,760
they're indigenous all the way to any of

2956
01:54:10,790 --> 01:54:09,520
your class you know the major religions

2957
01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:10,800
of the world

2958
01:54:15,109 --> 01:54:12,639
they're all trying to help us remember

2959
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:15,119
one basic thing and that's how to be a

2960
01:54:18,470 --> 01:54:16,800
better relative they're all trying to

2961
01:54:19,910 --> 01:54:18,480
teach us how to be a better relative and

2962
01:54:22,070 --> 01:54:19,920
i don't just mean a relative to your own

2963
01:54:23,830 --> 01:54:22,080
kin or to even your own species but how

2964
01:54:27,510 --> 01:54:23,840
to be a better relative to all things

2965
01:54:30,229 --> 01:54:27,520
right um and i feel that ultimately as

2966
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,239
human beings the invitation that we have

2967
01:54:33,270 --> 01:54:32,159
right now and that has been on our on

2968
01:54:34,790 --> 01:54:33,280
our you know

2969
01:54:37,589 --> 01:54:34,800
the offering the invitation has been on

2970
01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:37,599
our front step if you will our whole

2971
01:54:42,390 --> 01:54:40,080
existence has been inviting us to step

2972
01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:42,400
into our real role and kind of claim our

2973
01:54:44,310 --> 01:54:43,360
role

2974
01:54:48,790 --> 01:54:44,320
as

2975
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:48,800
fire and the earth stewards we are

2976
01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:50,400
shepherds of this earth you know this

2977
01:54:54,870 --> 01:54:52,320
this beautiful little jewel of a planet

2978
01:54:56,790 --> 01:54:54,880
that we have here we've been gifted this

2979
01:54:57,669 --> 01:54:56,800
and whether we're coming from a hybrid

2980
01:55:01,430 --> 01:54:57,679
you know

2981
01:55:02,629 --> 01:55:01,440
mean at the end of the day this is kind

2982
01:55:04,310 --> 01:55:02,639
of the thing i think is important

2983
01:55:06,070 --> 01:55:04,320
because i feel people get almost too

2984
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:06,080
caught up in that and they miss what's

2985
01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:07,920
really important which is

2986
01:55:11,350 --> 01:55:10,320
how do we show up as better relatives

2987
01:55:15,910 --> 01:55:11,360
right now

2988
01:55:17,510 --> 01:55:15,920
actually be able to show up in a good

2989
01:55:19,830 --> 01:55:17,520
way and steward

2990
01:55:21,910 --> 01:55:19,840
this next shift which is happening very

2991
01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:21,920
fast right we're we're accelerating as

2992
01:55:26,629 --> 01:55:24,639
we all know to this singularity um you

2993
01:55:28,390 --> 01:55:26,639
know that you know kurzweil talks about

2994
01:55:30,070 --> 01:55:28,400
and other people talk about where

2995
01:55:32,149 --> 01:55:30,080
we're having this merger happening this

2996
01:55:34,390 --> 01:55:32,159
technology is rushing right and here me

2997
01:55:36,870 --> 01:55:34,400
as an artist you know trying to navigate

2998
01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:36,880
this and using technology as part of my

2999
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:39,599
tool of my instruments and it's like how

3000
01:55:46,070 --> 01:55:42,960
do we learn to live and be in right

3001
01:55:46,950 --> 01:55:46,080
relation with fire and i say fire like i

3002
01:55:49,669 --> 01:55:46,960
was talking about earlier it's

3003
01:55:52,070 --> 01:55:49,679
technology which is fire and so how do

3004
01:55:54,310 --> 01:55:52,080
we balance and work with fire so that we

3005
01:55:56,390 --> 01:55:54,320
use it to illuminate the darkness as

3006
01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:56,400
opposed to incinerate everything around

3007
01:55:58,709 --> 01:55:57,360
us

3008
01:56:00,950 --> 01:55:58,719
and so i think it's a really powerful

3009
01:56:02,709 --> 01:56:00,960
moment and so these teachers and there's

3010
01:56:04,629 --> 01:56:02,719
various forms of this technology that's

3011
01:56:05,910 --> 01:56:04,639
here to teach us including all of these

3012
01:56:07,990 --> 01:56:05,920
amazing plants you know it's no

3013
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:08,000
coincidence i hope people get this it's

3014
01:56:12,470 --> 01:56:10,239
not a coincidence that we have receptor

3015
01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:12,480
sites in our brains that allow us to

3016
01:56:16,629 --> 01:56:14,400
work with these plants right there's a

3017
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:16,639
reason it's akina lock man the key and

3018
01:56:21,750 --> 01:56:19,760
the lock fit perfectly with dmt right

3019
01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:21,760
with with psilocybin with all of these

3020
01:56:25,830 --> 01:56:23,280
various molecules i mean there's

3021
01:56:28,310 --> 01:56:25,840
numerous ones that open up our ability

3022
01:56:29,350 --> 01:56:28,320
to perceive beyond what is just on the

3023
01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:29,360
surface

3024
01:56:34,870 --> 01:56:32,560
and now i it's kind of ironic that the

3025
01:56:36,629 --> 01:56:34,880
coolest science that exists is the

3026
01:56:38,550 --> 01:56:36,639
science that deals with the stuff that's

3027
01:56:39,990 --> 01:56:38,560
hard to measure that isn't on the

3028
01:56:41,669 --> 01:56:40,000
surface right you're talking quantum

3029
01:56:43,750 --> 01:56:41,679
we're talking things like that right

3030
01:56:45,189 --> 01:56:43,760
this this right the stuff that is super

3031
01:56:46,950 --> 01:56:45,199
mundane and just can measure the

3032
01:56:49,109 --> 01:56:46,960
surfaces of stuff is the stuff that's

3033
01:56:50,550 --> 01:56:49,119
been dominating kind of the popular you

3034
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:50,560
know all the power institutions that

3035
01:56:54,709 --> 01:56:52,560
around us and so it's very limited right

3036
01:56:56,229 --> 01:56:54,719
it's locked us and it doesn't want us to

3037
01:56:57,669 --> 01:56:56,239
move past that's scared of what's going

3038
01:56:59,030 --> 01:56:57,679
to happen because all the power

3039
01:57:01,350 --> 01:56:59,040
structures that be are going to come

3040
01:57:03,589 --> 01:57:01,360
tumbling as we awaken and we are

3041
01:57:05,030 --> 01:57:03,599
awakening to this reality right that is

3042
01:57:06,709 --> 01:57:05,040
beyond the reality that we've been kind

3043
01:57:09,109 --> 01:57:06,719
of fed and indoctrinated and i would

3044
01:57:10,550 --> 01:57:09,119
argue colonized you know we're all in

3045
01:57:12,709 --> 01:57:10,560
this kind of colonization now it's

3046
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:12,719
corporate colonization capitalism you

3047
01:57:15,910 --> 01:57:14,320
know we've all been fed this kind of

3048
01:57:17,750 --> 01:57:15,920
thing where we're just supposed to be a

3049
01:57:19,430 --> 01:57:17,760
good cog on the wheel and now that's

3050
01:57:21,830 --> 01:57:19,440
being exacerbated with technology is

3051
01:57:23,189 --> 01:57:21,840
being twisted ai that what it could be

3052
01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:23,199
used for is actually being used for

3053
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advertising right and how to manipulate

3054
01:57:28,629 --> 01:57:27,119
us even further into just buying more

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[\h__\h] we don't need

3056
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right well if i was president if i was

3057
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preso dent

3058
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right and you got elected to congress or

3059
01:57:41,910 --> 01:57:38,639
to the senate you would have to go

3060
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through one ayahuasca ceremony that's

3061
01:57:46,870 --> 01:57:44,000
what i that's what i would do if

3062
01:57:48,950 --> 01:57:46,880
could you imagine the paradigm shift

3063
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the very

3064
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that that would be a brave new world our

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guest tonight on ghee i am your host

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jimmy church we'll be right back after

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this short break stay with us

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3169
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the planet i guess tonight hold on

3173
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3174
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talking et and i want to get back a

3175
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little bit uh if you don't mind to where

3176
02:03:21,189 --> 02:03:18,719
we were when we left off because

3177
02:03:23,830 --> 02:03:21,199
you bring a you bring up a really

3178
02:03:25,350 --> 02:03:23,840
important point which is that

3179
02:03:26,149 --> 02:03:25,360
there are

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a

3181
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nothing is good enough

3182
02:04:10,390 --> 02:04:08,159
and and

3183
02:04:12,390 --> 02:04:10,400
and i understand both sides but i've had

3184
02:04:14,709 --> 02:04:12,400
my sightings i've seen the things that

3185
02:04:17,109 --> 02:04:14,719
you know so i you know i don't need any

3186
02:04:20,390 --> 02:04:17,119
any proof to come from the government to

3187
02:04:21,830 --> 02:04:20,400
change or you know solidify my

3188
02:04:23,910 --> 02:04:21,840
experiences

3189
02:04:25,830 --> 02:04:23,920
but that's the problem that we have

3190
02:04:28,790 --> 02:04:25,840
today isn't it

3191
02:04:30,709 --> 02:04:28,800
yeah yeah totally yeah i don't i don't

3192
02:04:32,149 --> 02:04:30,719
look for validity ever from the

3193
02:04:34,790 --> 02:04:32,159
government

3194
02:04:36,870 --> 02:04:34,800
i say the least so it's like you know i

3195
02:04:38,550 --> 02:04:36,880
kind of like it for me it's like wow the

3196
02:04:40,390 --> 02:04:38,560
government's shut down this guy what's

3197
02:04:42,709 --> 02:04:40,400
what's going on

3198
02:04:44,870 --> 02:04:42,719
it's like you know it's it's kind of a

3199
02:04:47,270 --> 02:04:44,880
ridiculous thing it's mostly a pain in

3200
02:04:48,709 --> 02:04:47,280
the ass i think for us because i can't

3201
02:04:49,750 --> 02:04:48,719
call the irs because they're after me

3202
02:04:51,189 --> 02:04:49,760
because i didn't have health insurance

3203
02:04:54,550 --> 02:04:51,199
because i'm a musician you know right

3204
02:04:57,030 --> 02:04:54,560
right right right right ridiculous so at

3205
02:04:58,310 --> 02:04:57,040
the end i i think the important pieces

3206
02:05:00,629 --> 02:04:58,320
and that's kind of what i was i was

3207
02:05:02,390 --> 02:05:00,639
touching on when we went to break is

3208
02:05:04,629 --> 02:05:02,400
that you know i feel a lot of people get

3209
02:05:06,790 --> 02:05:04,639
overwhelmed and they kind of almost get

3210
02:05:09,189 --> 02:05:06,800
apathetic or they get shut down and i

3211
02:05:10,310 --> 02:05:09,199
think that's the danger i think the real

3212
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:10,320
important thing is to not get

3213
02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:11,920
overwhelmed whether it's true or not

3214
02:05:14,950 --> 02:05:13,920
true whether you know they're on their

3215
02:05:16,470 --> 02:05:14,960
you know

3216
02:05:19,189 --> 02:05:16,480
they need to kind of come out or not

3217
02:05:21,430 --> 02:05:19,199
come out i think it's it comes back to

3218
02:05:24,070 --> 02:05:21,440
how can we continue shifting this whole

3219
02:05:26,629 --> 02:05:24,080
thing forward and it starts with us and

3220
02:05:28,709 --> 02:05:26,639
i mean us as an i as in the individual

3221
02:05:30,310 --> 02:05:28,719
person and that's why i feel so

3222
02:05:31,990 --> 02:05:30,320
important you know the work that you're

3223
02:05:33,750 --> 02:05:32,000
doing here you know with with all of

3224
02:05:35,589 --> 02:05:33,760
this with sharing what you do through

3225
02:05:37,189 --> 02:05:35,599
your creative channels you know the work

3226
02:05:38,629 --> 02:05:37,199
that i'm doing as a musician out there

3227
02:05:41,270 --> 02:05:38,639
and sharing it also through those

3228
02:05:43,990 --> 02:05:41,280
creative channels i think we have to all

3229
02:05:46,629 --> 02:05:44,000
do our part right now more than ever

3230
02:05:48,310 --> 02:05:46,639
to really help keep that cohesive field

3231
02:05:49,990 --> 02:05:48,320
moving forward and keep us remembering

3232
02:05:51,589 --> 02:05:50,000
that you know we're all activists we

3233
02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:51,599
have to be activists at this point we

3234
02:05:56,149 --> 02:05:53,840
have to activate each other to continue

3235
02:05:58,470 --> 02:05:56,159
to move forward right now with what this

3236
02:05:59,830 --> 02:05:58,480
transition um and how to be a better

3237
02:06:01,669 --> 02:05:59,840
relative as i was saying you know it's

3238
02:06:04,070 --> 02:06:01,679
so important and that looks like a lot

3239
02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:04,080
of different things but it comes back to

3240
02:06:07,270 --> 02:06:05,840
first of all relation to self how are

3241
02:06:08,709 --> 02:06:07,280
you taking care of yourself are you

3242
02:06:11,030 --> 02:06:08,719
taking care of yourself how are you

3243
02:06:13,430 --> 02:06:11,040
taking care of your little piece of this

3244
02:06:15,189 --> 02:06:13,440
earth right whether that's just in your

3245
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:15,199
you know your relationship to your

3246
02:06:19,030 --> 02:06:17,760
beloved or to your family you know what

3247
02:06:21,270 --> 02:06:19,040
does that look like in your local

3248
02:06:22,790 --> 02:06:21,280
community and then in that greater

3249
02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:22,800
community right and how we're able to

3250
02:06:26,550 --> 02:06:24,880
impact people through the web or in our

3251
02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:26,560
travels and i feel like there's all

3252
02:06:29,910 --> 02:06:28,480
these layers that those things really

3253
02:06:31,990 --> 02:06:29,920
have to start there because i feel so

3254
02:06:33,510 --> 02:06:32,000
many people just kind of get oh man i

3255
02:06:34,790 --> 02:06:33,520
can't even deal with all this right

3256
02:06:36,470 --> 02:06:34,800
they're like ai now you're going to

3257
02:06:37,910 --> 02:06:36,480
throw that in there right you know and

3258
02:06:39,510 --> 02:06:37,920
they're just like they just overwhelm

3259
02:06:41,350 --> 02:06:39,520
mode and then you just get apathetic and

3260
02:06:42,950 --> 02:06:41,360
you're just like whatever and just i'm

3261
02:06:44,950 --> 02:06:42,960
going to go to the movie theater and

3262
02:06:46,310 --> 02:06:44,960
just forget about it

3263
02:06:49,910 --> 02:06:46,320
and then we have

3264
02:06:51,430 --> 02:06:49,920
there is the the science side of things

3265
02:06:53,669 --> 02:06:51,440
and you brought it up you brought up you

3266
02:06:55,589 --> 02:06:53,679
know the quantum level of

3267
02:06:58,390 --> 02:06:55,599
things that are going on and science is

3268
02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:58,400
pursuing this so aggressively

3269
02:07:03,350 --> 02:07:00,400
knowing that there is

3270
02:07:05,189 --> 02:07:03,360
some of the answers for them for math

3271
02:07:08,390 --> 02:07:05,199
and the things that they are working on

3272
02:07:10,790 --> 02:07:08,400
to make the numbers work there has to be

3273
02:07:12,790 --> 02:07:10,800
something parallel going on there has to

3274
02:07:14,870 --> 02:07:12,800
be extra dimensions then you have string

3275
02:07:15,910 --> 02:07:14,880
theory with ten dimensions and possibly

3276
02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:15,920
eleven

3277
02:07:21,430 --> 02:07:18,880
and so they know about this and they are

3278
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:21,440
aware of it then we have the paradox we

3279
02:07:27,750 --> 02:07:23,760
have this strange situation where

3280
02:07:30,550 --> 02:07:27,760
uh ayahuasca and and dmt

3281
02:07:32,870 --> 02:07:30,560
has has been used not only through

3282
02:07:33,750 --> 02:07:32,880
ourselves internally

3283
02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:33,760
uh

3284
02:07:40,550 --> 02:07:36,400
you know naturally created but through

3285
02:07:41,669 --> 02:07:40,560
ceremony for thousands of years uh going

3286
02:07:43,270 --> 02:07:41,679
to

3287
02:07:44,229 --> 02:07:43,280
another

3288
02:07:47,990 --> 02:07:44,239
world

3289
02:07:49,910 --> 02:07:48,000
and where the experiences of those that

3290
02:07:51,510 --> 02:07:49,920
have gone through this all over this

3291
02:07:55,030 --> 02:07:51,520
planet all

3292
02:07:57,109 --> 02:07:55,040
talk about the same experiences

3293
02:07:58,629 --> 02:07:57,119
the same place where they have gone the

3294
02:08:01,109 --> 02:07:58,639
same spirits that they have talked to

3295
02:08:03,669 --> 02:08:01,119
the same physical things the same

3296
02:08:04,870 --> 02:08:03,679
descriptions of where they go to but

3297
02:08:07,189 --> 02:08:04,880
science

3298
02:08:09,510 --> 02:08:07,199
doesn't want to explore this

3299
02:08:11,510 --> 02:08:09,520
that there is a possibility here and

3300
02:08:14,709 --> 02:08:11,520
they won't take this into

3301
02:08:17,510 --> 02:08:14,719
a laboratory controlled setting to see

3302
02:08:19,750 --> 02:08:17,520
if if if that is exactly what is going

3303
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:19,760
on that that this is a tool this is a

3304
02:08:23,990 --> 02:08:21,599
mechanism

3305
02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:24,000
to an instrument if you will

3306
02:08:30,470 --> 02:08:27,040
to go and visit another world that

3307
02:08:32,069 --> 02:08:30,480
exists amongst our own why is that i i

3308
02:08:34,069 --> 02:08:32,079
don't understand why they they don't

3309
02:08:36,390 --> 02:08:34,079
even want to challenge it

3310
02:08:38,069 --> 02:08:36,400
well i mean the why i think is probably

3311
02:08:40,870 --> 02:08:38,079
the easiest question i you know i think

3312
02:08:42,470 --> 02:08:40,880
i think to answer and and so much as i

3313
02:08:44,229 --> 02:08:42,480
think there's a lot of there's a lot of

3314
02:08:45,830 --> 02:08:44,239
fear obviously you know like all of the

3315
02:08:47,510 --> 02:08:45,840
the war on drugs all of the fear that

3316
02:08:50,229 --> 02:08:47,520
was generated out of the you know kind

3317
02:08:52,229 --> 02:08:50,239
of the response to the 60s right and and

3318
02:08:54,790 --> 02:08:52,239
timothy very you know all of that kind

3319
02:08:56,390 --> 02:08:54,800
of reactionary kind of knee jerk thing

3320
02:08:58,950 --> 02:08:56,400
that we saw from the administration's

3321
02:09:00,550 --> 02:08:58,960
where they basically you know classified

3322
02:09:01,990 --> 02:09:00,560
all of these incredible

3323
02:09:04,149 --> 02:09:02,000
even therapeutic

3324
02:09:05,830 --> 02:09:04,159
clear therapeutic beneficial medicines

3325
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:05,840
as all these schedule one schedule two

3326
02:09:09,990 --> 02:09:08,000
drugs and and so now you finally

3327
02:09:12,069 --> 02:09:10,000
actually see for the first time here in

3328
02:09:14,790 --> 02:09:12,079
history we're seeing that change and so

3329
02:09:16,790 --> 02:09:14,800
right now as we speak there is actually

3330
02:09:18,709 --> 02:09:16,800
several things that are happening um you

3331
02:09:21,109 --> 02:09:18,719
know maps probably familiar with maps

3332
02:09:23,350 --> 02:09:21,119
the organization um they're they're

3333
02:09:24,950 --> 02:09:23,360
working actively right now and there are

3334
02:09:27,589 --> 02:09:24,960
several different clinical trials that

3335
02:09:29,910 --> 02:09:27,599
are coming online there it looks like um

3336
02:09:32,069 --> 02:09:29,920
basically psilocybe is is on the block

3337
02:09:35,830 --> 02:09:32,079
potentially to be declassified as well

3338
02:09:37,510 --> 02:09:35,840
as mdma for therapeutic use um there's a

3339
02:09:39,510 --> 02:09:37,520
number of substances that are really

3340
02:09:41,430 --> 02:09:39,520
important medicines ketamine's already

3341
02:09:42,790 --> 02:09:41,440
there which is you know very interesting

3342
02:09:44,470 --> 02:09:42,800
one it's already being used in clinical

3343
02:09:46,069 --> 02:09:44,480
settings with people

3344
02:09:47,270 --> 02:09:46,079
right now for ayahuasca of course you

3345
02:09:48,709 --> 02:09:47,280
have to do that outside of the united

3346
02:09:51,270 --> 02:09:48,719
states for ibogaine as well there's

3347
02:09:53,750 --> 02:09:51,280
these eboga centers already just across

3348
02:09:55,589 --> 02:09:53,760
the border mexico right

3349
02:09:57,510 --> 02:09:55,599
and and they're doing amazing work right

3350
02:10:00,390 --> 02:09:57,520
treating all kinds of things from from

3351
02:10:02,629 --> 02:10:00,400
depression to ptsd to chronic pain

3352
02:10:04,470 --> 02:10:02,639
heroin addiction yeah heroin addiction

3353
02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:04,480
yeah ebola is amazing for that right

3354
02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:06,880
right ayahuasca has various uses and of

3355
02:10:11,109 --> 02:10:08,400
course ayahuasca isn't just

3356
02:10:13,350 --> 02:10:11,119
dimethyltryptamine dmt it has a load of

3357
02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:13,360
other alkaloids that are also super

3358
02:10:17,430 --> 02:10:16,000
healing and so it's it's really an

3359
02:10:19,350 --> 02:10:17,440
interesting time to actually watch all

3360
02:10:21,030 --> 02:10:19,360
this and to be a part of this movement

3361
02:10:23,109 --> 02:10:21,040
and so there's a whole thing happening

3362
02:10:25,830 --> 02:10:23,119
actually i have a dear friend of mine uh

3363
02:10:27,510 --> 02:10:25,840
dan angle dr dan engel if anyone wants

3364
02:10:29,430 --> 02:10:27,520
to look him up i really recommend it

3365
02:10:31,910 --> 02:10:29,440
he's got a nuke he's got a clinic they

3366
02:10:33,830 --> 02:10:31,920
have a neuro neurobiology clinic in

3367
02:10:35,189 --> 02:10:33,840
boulder colorado and he's opening

3368
02:10:36,870 --> 02:10:35,199
another one austin there's going to be a

3369
02:10:37,830 --> 02:10:36,880
whole bunch of these clinics opening

3370
02:10:39,430 --> 02:10:37,840
that

3371
02:10:40,870 --> 02:10:39,440
the main thing they treat is traumatic

3372
02:10:42,310 --> 02:10:40,880
brain injury right so they work with

3373
02:10:44,550 --> 02:10:42,320
like athletes or people who've been in

3374
02:10:46,470 --> 02:10:44,560
major accidents but they're taking them

3375
02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:46,480
using all this cutting-edge technology

3376
02:10:50,310 --> 02:10:48,880
including using ketamine right now

3377
02:10:52,550 --> 02:10:50,320
legally they have ketamine sessions

3378
02:10:54,390 --> 02:10:52,560
happening where they take them into even

3379
02:10:57,030 --> 02:10:54,400
float tanks and different types of

3380
02:10:59,350 --> 02:10:57,040
hyperbaric chambers and using even stem

3381
02:11:01,430 --> 02:10:59,360
cells uh it's amazing man this cutting

3382
02:11:03,990 --> 02:11:01,440
edge and seeing the brain basically turn

3383
02:11:05,750 --> 02:11:04,000
back on and it's just mind-boggling what

3384
02:11:08,629 --> 02:11:05,760
they're doing and helping people

3385
02:11:11,270 --> 02:11:08,639
heal and restore and rebuild new neural

3386
02:11:13,189 --> 02:11:11,280
pathways and it's all being done under

3387
02:11:15,910 --> 02:11:13,199
you know full-on clinical supervision

3388
02:11:17,990 --> 02:11:15,920
with rigorous science around it and so

3389
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:18,000
it's shifting i mean the the fear of

3390
02:11:21,270 --> 02:11:19,520
like the science the old model of

3391
02:11:23,350 --> 02:11:21,280
science that's like kind of scared and

3392
02:11:25,350 --> 02:11:23,360
has been funded and you know dependent

3393
02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:25,360
on government grants that's all shifting

3394
02:11:29,189 --> 02:11:27,199
right now there's a big pivot happening

3395
02:11:30,950 --> 02:11:29,199
and moving into the private sector and a

3396
02:11:32,470 --> 02:11:30,960
lot of people especially with all of the

3397
02:11:34,950 --> 02:11:32,480
push i think that's also coming out of

3398
02:11:37,430 --> 02:11:34,960
silicon valley and a lot of people in

3399
02:11:39,109 --> 02:11:37,440
kind of the tech arenas who get you know

3400
02:11:40,629 --> 02:11:39,119
and maybe burning man is part of this

3401
02:11:43,189 --> 02:11:40,639
you know has instigated this kind of

3402
02:11:44,470 --> 02:11:43,199
like threshold of where i see that

3403
02:11:46,870 --> 02:11:44,480
you know there's a movement happening

3404
02:11:49,109 --> 02:11:46,880
where a lot of really brilliant minds

3405
02:11:51,669 --> 02:11:49,119
they get that hey there's something here

3406
02:11:53,990 --> 02:11:51,679
we can't keep ignoring this technology

3407
02:11:55,430 --> 02:11:54,000
that is awakening us and and it's

3408
02:11:58,069 --> 02:11:55,440
helping it's you know people micro

3409
02:12:00,149 --> 02:11:58,079
dosing with lsd or you know things of

3410
02:12:02,390 --> 02:12:00,159
that nature and or psilocybe for

3411
02:12:03,750 --> 02:12:02,400
instance and finding that they get more

3412
02:12:05,750 --> 02:12:03,760
creative they're more productive they're

3413
02:12:07,830 --> 02:12:05,760
more focused they're able to solve

3414
02:12:08,629 --> 02:12:07,840
problems they couldn't solve otherwise

3415
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:08,639
you know because they're actually

3416
02:12:13,510 --> 02:12:10,400
activating more of their brain and then

3417
02:12:16,550 --> 02:12:13,520
we have but then we have the problem of

3418
02:12:18,149 --> 02:12:16,560
uh ayahuasca and dmt getting a bad name

3419
02:12:20,870 --> 02:12:18,159
because you've got these

3420
02:12:23,669 --> 02:12:20,880
you know groups of people going down to

3421
02:12:26,550 --> 02:12:23,679
peru and ecuador to go party

3422
02:12:28,629 --> 02:12:26,560
well you know that's that's that's the

3423
02:12:31,030 --> 02:12:28,639
double-edged sword of capitalism right

3424
02:12:33,510 --> 02:12:31,040
right it's such it's so twisted so yeah

3425
02:12:35,750 --> 02:12:33,520
now because of there being more kind of

3426
02:12:37,350 --> 02:12:35,760
comments it's entering the mainstream

3427
02:12:39,109 --> 02:12:37,360
and like everything that enters the

3428
02:12:41,270 --> 02:12:39,119
mainstream i mean look at it with great

3429
02:12:43,750 --> 02:12:41,280
examples yoga right so here you have

3430
02:12:46,069 --> 02:12:43,760
this form that is ancient that has been

3431
02:12:48,229 --> 02:12:46,079
cultivated and is basically just one

3432
02:12:50,229 --> 02:12:48,239
little sliver of a massive spiritual

3433
02:12:52,390 --> 02:12:50,239
tradition that's all geared to reaching

3434
02:12:55,350 --> 02:12:52,400
enlightenment and what do we do we

3435
02:12:57,189 --> 02:12:55,360
commodify we sell you yoga mats and you

3436
02:12:59,270 --> 02:12:57,199
know the latest in yoga clothes right

3437
02:13:00,470 --> 02:12:59,280
and and you know the yoga music to go

3438
02:13:03,030 --> 02:13:00,480
with it

3439
02:13:05,189 --> 02:13:03,040
and it's like let me like put put all of

3440
02:13:07,030 --> 02:13:05,199
this consumer branding and you know

3441
02:13:09,830 --> 02:13:07,040
capitalists basically model right onto

3442
02:13:11,750 --> 02:13:09,840
this thing and totally alienate this

3443
02:13:13,109 --> 02:13:11,760
beautiful form of reaching alignment and

3444
02:13:15,510 --> 02:13:13,119
turn it into just another form of

3445
02:13:17,669 --> 02:13:15,520
consumption and so of course with

3446
02:13:20,390 --> 02:13:17,679
ayahuasca and and what we've seen in

3447
02:13:22,229 --> 02:13:20,400
these shamanic traditions is that's also

3448
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:22,239
happened now the word's gotten out and i

3449
02:13:25,990 --> 02:13:24,480
mean you know i scored the soundtrack to

3450
02:13:28,229 --> 02:13:26,000
a documentary film that definitely

3451
02:13:30,470 --> 02:13:28,239
reached a lot of people that then went

3452
02:13:32,229 --> 02:13:30,480
down to peru as a result of that and so

3453
02:13:34,229 --> 02:13:32,239
i definitely had a conversation with

3454
02:13:36,149 --> 02:13:34,239
mother ayuska you know and i i call her

3455
02:13:37,669 --> 02:13:36,159
mama like she's like a grandmother

3456
02:13:40,550 --> 02:13:37,679
because she's a consciousness she's a

3457
02:13:41,750 --> 02:13:40,560
she's a spirit of being um

3458
02:13:43,270 --> 02:13:41,760
depending on how you want to look at

3459
02:13:44,950 --> 02:13:43,280
that or like i'm saying before you could

3460
02:13:46,790 --> 02:13:44,960
talk about it in different ways but to

3461
02:13:49,589 --> 02:13:46,800
put it simply you know

3462
02:13:51,669 --> 02:13:49,599
she wants to be known she's like what

3463
02:13:53,750 --> 02:13:51,679
she told me in my work with her and over

3464
02:13:55,270 --> 02:13:53,760
the years and this is since i was young

3465
02:13:56,950 --> 02:13:55,280
she said you know

3466
02:13:58,790 --> 02:13:56,960
this is time right now like

3467
02:14:00,790 --> 02:13:58,800
the whole all of the plants all of the

3468
02:14:02,470 --> 02:14:00,800
other species on the planet they have an

3469
02:14:03,910 --> 02:14:02,480
awareness they have a consciousness it's

3470
02:14:05,510 --> 02:14:03,920
not that they're it's just humans and

3471
02:14:08,149 --> 02:14:05,520
everything else is like you know just

3472
02:14:09,589 --> 02:14:08,159
stuff for us to extract and exploit

3473
02:14:11,669 --> 02:14:09,599
everything has an awareness and it's

3474
02:14:14,069 --> 02:14:11,679
everyone is hip to what the humans are

3475
02:14:15,990 --> 02:14:14,079
doing right now and everyone's like we

3476
02:14:18,629 --> 02:14:16,000
gotta do something and so

3477
02:14:19,990 --> 02:14:18,639
those master ally plants and teachers

3478
02:14:21,750 --> 02:14:20,000
are saying hey

3479
02:14:23,910 --> 02:14:21,760
it's time for us to kind of really come

3480
02:14:26,149 --> 02:14:23,920
back and help to activate and help the

3481
02:14:27,910 --> 02:14:26,159
human beings who are the stewards of

3482
02:14:29,669 --> 02:14:27,920
this earth and have the birthright as i

3483
02:14:32,550 --> 02:14:29,679
said earlier with fire

3484
02:14:34,550 --> 02:14:32,560
to master and to honor their role as the

3485
02:14:36,709 --> 02:14:34,560
fire keepers right now more than ever

3486
02:14:38,229 --> 02:14:36,719
because that's what they're doing

3487
02:14:41,189 --> 02:14:38,239
but see that's what's most important

3488
02:14:43,830 --> 02:14:41,199
here there's a ceremony in a tradition

3489
02:14:46,550 --> 02:14:43,840
that is there for a reason

3490
02:14:48,870 --> 02:14:46,560
you can't just go down to peru and and

3491
02:14:50,870 --> 02:14:48,880
you know go and sign up for this

3492
02:14:52,709 --> 02:14:50,880
and and start the ceremony and go okay

3493
02:14:54,629 --> 02:14:52,719
man when are we going to start drinking

3494
02:14:57,109 --> 02:14:54,639
dude it's not about that

3495
02:15:00,390 --> 02:14:57,119
right you know that and it's also a

3496
02:15:03,830 --> 02:15:00,400
danger zone you know you need to yeah

3497
02:15:04,709 --> 02:15:03,840
you need to respect what you are doing

3498
02:15:07,030 --> 02:15:04,719
you know

3499
02:15:09,510 --> 02:15:07,040
and and by the way

3500
02:15:12,390 --> 02:15:09,520
um and not to cut you off which i just

3501
02:15:13,589 --> 02:15:12,400
did so rudely but are you a musical

3502
02:15:15,510 --> 02:15:13,599
shaman

3503
02:15:17,589 --> 02:15:15,520
i mean do you do you look at yourself

3504
02:15:20,069 --> 02:15:17,599
that way

3505
02:15:21,910 --> 02:15:20,079
um you know i some people have called me

3506
02:15:23,830 --> 02:15:21,920
that you know i don't i don't like the

3507
02:15:25,910 --> 02:15:23,840
word shaman just because i feel like

3508
02:15:28,229 --> 02:15:25,920
it's a it's kind of another one of those

3509
02:15:30,069 --> 02:15:28,239
appropriated like words that kind of has

3510
02:15:31,830 --> 02:15:30,079
just become the catch-all phrase for

3511
02:15:33,510 --> 02:15:31,840
anyone who works in in the spiritual

3512
02:15:35,189 --> 02:15:33,520
realm but that's right you know what i

3513
02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:35,199
mean and kind of it's just like like

3514
02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:37,360
it's almost become cliche so i kind of

3515
02:15:40,870 --> 02:15:38,800
say you know the shamanic ins you're

3516
02:15:41,669 --> 02:15:40,880
doing the shenanigans

3517
02:15:43,589 --> 02:15:41,679
um

3518
02:15:45,189 --> 02:15:43,599
for me though man it's it you know it's

3519
02:15:47,589 --> 02:15:45,199
it's just about connecting the spirit

3520
02:15:50,149 --> 02:15:47,599
and doing that in the most authentic way

3521
02:15:51,910 --> 02:15:50,159
with this little [\h__\h] and ego as

3522
02:15:53,750 --> 02:15:51,920
possible and that's why i say for me

3523
02:15:55,189 --> 02:15:53,760
it's about getting out of the way and so

3524
02:15:56,709 --> 02:15:55,199
i'm not making that music you know

3525
02:15:58,390 --> 02:15:56,719
people say oh man you're so great oh

3526
02:15:59,350 --> 02:15:58,400
you're so brilliant it's like well thank

3527
02:16:01,350 --> 02:15:59,360
you but

3528
02:16:03,669 --> 02:16:01,360
you know that's not me it's like if it

3529
02:16:05,189 --> 02:16:03,679
were just me it wouldn't be so great

3530
02:16:07,109 --> 02:16:05,199
it's actually not me it's like that's

3531
02:16:09,430 --> 02:16:07,119
coming from spirit that is inspired from

3532
02:16:10,870 --> 02:16:09,440
spirit and and i don't claim it you know

3533
02:16:13,030 --> 02:16:10,880
i didn't write these songs i didn't

3534
02:16:15,350 --> 02:16:13,040
record like i'm there yeah my body's

3535
02:16:17,270 --> 02:16:15,360
there but i'm acting in service and

3536
02:16:18,950 --> 02:16:17,280
that's really the key for me and i feel

3537
02:16:21,109 --> 02:16:18,960
that's the piece too about the

3538
02:16:23,189 --> 02:16:21,119
ayahuasqueros and the vegetalistas when

3539
02:16:25,270 --> 02:16:23,199
we talk about them the vegetables which

3540
02:16:27,589 --> 02:16:25,280
basically means the the plant

3541
02:16:29,589 --> 02:16:27,599
medicine man or medicine woman

3542
02:16:31,669 --> 02:16:29,599
they are working with these plants you

3543
02:16:33,669 --> 02:16:31,679
know the real ones okay there's plenty

3544
02:16:35,110 --> 02:16:33,679
of shenanigans going on now now because

3545
02:16:37,589 --> 02:16:35,120
it's an industry now it's become a

3546
02:16:39,509 --> 02:16:37,599
tourism thing now you go down you get

3547
02:16:41,429 --> 02:16:39,519
off the plane in the iquitos or the boat

3548
02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:41,439
rather than the plane and man you got

3549
02:16:45,349 --> 02:16:43,439
everybody hey i was goiska whatever

3550
02:16:47,669 --> 02:16:45,359
shaman you know this that and the other

3551
02:16:49,509 --> 02:16:47,679
campbell you name it whatever you want

3552
02:16:51,270 --> 02:16:49,519
um stuff that's not even from there is

3553
02:16:53,990 --> 02:16:51,280
being offered and it's it's really

3554
02:16:55,270 --> 02:16:54,000
dangerous because it's become the money

3555
02:16:56,790 --> 02:16:55,280
has gotten involved right and like

3556
02:16:59,190 --> 02:16:56,800
anything once the money enters the

3557
02:17:01,669 --> 02:16:59,200
equation it starts to distort things

3558
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:01,679
right it starts to kind of to corrupt it

3559
02:17:06,309 --> 02:17:05,200
and and ayuska herself that teacher that

3560
02:17:08,230 --> 02:17:06,319
master

3561
02:17:09,750 --> 02:17:08,240
she's not the corrupted one right it's

3562
02:17:11,669 --> 02:17:09,760
like she's still gonna work with you in

3563
02:17:12,790 --> 02:17:11,679
a good way but this is the danger people

3564
02:17:15,110 --> 02:17:12,800
don't get

3565
02:17:17,669 --> 02:17:15,120
it's like doing psychic surgery you're

3566
02:17:19,349 --> 02:17:17,679
not gonna hand a scalpel to some doc

3567
02:17:21,110 --> 02:17:19,359
that you just met off the street right

3568
02:17:22,709 --> 02:17:21,120
right and be like hey man will you work

3569
02:17:24,790 --> 02:17:22,719
on my brain here and just help me like

3570
02:17:26,870 --> 02:17:24,800
you know fix a little bit of depression

3571
02:17:28,389 --> 02:17:26,880
no freaking way right you would go find

3572
02:17:29,990 --> 02:17:28,399
out get references like you're going to

3573
02:17:31,669 --> 02:17:30,000
know who you're dealing with and it's

3574
02:17:34,150 --> 02:17:31,679
the same with ayahuasca you're opening

3575
02:17:36,389 --> 02:17:34,160
up your psychic portal you're basically

3576
02:17:38,549 --> 02:17:36,399
in up in the operating room and now

3577
02:17:40,150 --> 02:17:38,559
you're saying okay i'm wide open now

3578
02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:40,160
when you're wide open man like i was

3579
02:17:43,190 --> 02:17:41,519
saying earlier with the ceremonies that

3580
02:17:44,709 --> 02:17:43,200
i grew up in even just with the drumming

3581
02:17:46,950 --> 02:17:44,719
when we go into trance states with just

3582
02:17:49,349 --> 02:17:46,960
the music let alone when we add the

3583
02:17:51,030 --> 02:17:49,359
layer of these master plans you are

3584
02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:51,040
opening yourself up to anything and so

3585
02:17:54,309 --> 02:17:52,639
it's very dangerous people don't even

3586
02:17:56,790 --> 02:17:54,319
understand the level of danger that's

3587
02:17:58,709 --> 02:17:56,800
there from entities coming in from other

3588
02:18:00,950 --> 02:17:58,719
beings from attacks psychic attacks i

3589
02:18:02,790 --> 02:18:00,960
mean it is a full-on war when you're

3590
02:18:04,389 --> 02:18:02,800
when you're hip to this this might freak

3591
02:18:06,309 --> 02:18:04,399
people out out there so sorry listeners

3592
02:18:08,469 --> 02:18:06,319
but you gotta understand

3593
02:18:10,230 --> 02:18:08,479
there's a whole other dimension that is

3594
02:18:12,389 --> 02:18:10,240
there's full-on battles happening

3595
02:18:14,070 --> 02:18:12,399
between various shamans and i'm using

3596
02:18:15,910 --> 02:18:14,080
shamans here just because that's people

3597
02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:15,920
can understand that term but people who

3598
02:18:19,270 --> 02:18:17,679
work in these dimensions and you know

3599
02:18:21,429 --> 02:18:19,280
how to navigate them to different

3600
02:18:23,349 --> 02:18:21,439
degrees there are people who know how to

3601
02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:23,359
actually move through these spaces and

3602
02:18:26,469 --> 02:18:25,439
sets you up before

3603
02:18:27,349 --> 02:18:26,479
you know

3604
02:18:35,030 --> 02:18:27,359
they

3605
02:18:36,070 --> 02:18:35,040
absolutely yes and and you know and

3606
02:18:37,910 --> 02:18:36,080
sometimes

3607
02:18:39,190 --> 02:18:37,920
you literally have your own protection

3608
02:18:41,030 --> 02:18:39,200
and guides that you don't even know that

3609
02:18:42,230 --> 02:18:41,040
are with you right protection right

3610
02:18:44,469 --> 02:18:42,240
they're there but actually they're there

3611
02:18:46,309 --> 02:18:44,479
there's allies as well it's not all dark

3612
02:18:48,709 --> 02:18:46,319
but there's a lot of dark unfortunate

3613
02:18:50,389 --> 02:18:48,719
because why dark is attracted the light

3614
02:18:53,030 --> 02:18:50,399
in the dark are always working right in

3615
02:18:55,190 --> 02:18:53,040
this dance and so it's the same in this

3616
02:18:57,349 --> 02:18:55,200
this applies as above so below as

3617
02:18:59,429 --> 02:18:57,359
without so within and so you have this

3618
02:19:01,910 --> 02:18:59,439
happening so you really it's very

3619
02:19:03,669 --> 02:19:01,920
dangerous it's i can't like i can't

3620
02:19:05,110 --> 02:19:03,679
overstate this and so people don't get

3621
02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:05,120
it's like you have to know who you're

3622
02:19:08,709 --> 02:19:07,120
sitting with you have to know who is

3623
02:19:10,469 --> 02:19:08,719
holding the space who's your road man or

3624
02:19:12,389 --> 02:19:10,479
road woman and and it doesn't matter

3625
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:12,399
what it is i would even extend that

3626
02:19:15,429 --> 02:19:14,160
analogy to music

3627
02:19:17,270 --> 02:19:15,439
you know when you're going out to a

3628
02:19:19,429 --> 02:19:17,280
concert or you're going out to a club

3629
02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:19,439
and you're you're getting shit-faced you

3630
02:19:24,150 --> 02:19:22,000
gotta know man like if you're listening

3631
02:19:25,589 --> 02:19:24,160
whoever's up there guiding the ceremony

3632
02:19:27,830 --> 02:19:25,599
because i hate to say it but it is a

3633
02:19:30,309 --> 02:19:27,840
ceremony it really is music the

3634
02:19:32,629 --> 02:19:30,319
performance it goes all back to the

3635
02:19:34,389 --> 02:19:32,639
original fire when we were sitting there

3636
02:19:35,830 --> 02:19:34,399
with grandma and grandpa and the

3637
02:19:37,830 --> 02:19:35,840
medicine man of your village right

3638
02:19:39,429 --> 02:19:37,840
whether they were druids or whether they

3639
02:19:40,629 --> 02:19:39,439
were in africa or whether they were in

3640
02:19:42,870 --> 02:19:40,639
south america or they were the

3641
02:19:45,190 --> 02:19:42,880
aboriginal people and they're moving

3642
02:19:47,349 --> 02:19:45,200
energy and you go into that trance state

3643
02:19:49,510 --> 02:19:47,359
and you're in an altered state whether

3644
02:19:50,870 --> 02:19:49,520
that's with alcohol tobacco which is a

3645
02:19:52,870 --> 02:19:50,880
master plant by the way that's been

3646
02:19:55,110 --> 02:19:52,880
totally misunderstood you know ganja

3647
02:19:57,830 --> 02:19:55,120
which is another master plant something

3648
02:20:00,469 --> 02:19:57,840
marijuana pot you know all of these are

3649
02:20:01,270 --> 02:20:00,479
our teachers and they're opening our

3650
02:20:03,590 --> 02:20:01,280
you know

3651
02:20:05,110 --> 02:20:03,600
perception which we know nine tenths of

3652
02:20:07,990 --> 02:20:05,120
reality is the way in which we perceive

3653
02:20:09,510 --> 02:20:08,000
it that science has told us that so if

3654
02:20:11,429 --> 02:20:09,520
you understand that you're altering your

3655
02:20:13,590 --> 02:20:11,439
perception you're altering reality

3656
02:20:15,429 --> 02:20:13,600
you're opening up doors and portals

3657
02:20:17,990 --> 02:20:15,439
you're actually impacting change so

3658
02:20:19,750 --> 02:20:18,000
going back to that very first question

3659
02:20:21,990 --> 02:20:19,760
you know that you asked me is are you

3660
02:20:24,389 --> 02:20:22,000
different afterwards

3661
02:20:27,030 --> 02:20:24,399
yes absolutely you know it's like each

3662
02:20:29,030 --> 02:20:27,040
one of my of my ceremonies has informed

3663
02:20:30,870 --> 02:20:29,040
who i am right now it's like i never the

3664
02:20:33,429 --> 02:20:30,880
same man never walks into the same river

3665
02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:33,439
that's right that's right and it reminds

3666
02:20:38,150 --> 02:20:36,000
me did you see the the documentary uh

3667
02:20:39,429 --> 02:20:38,160
with michelle rodriguez

3668
02:20:41,429 --> 02:20:39,439
i don't know that i have what's it

3669
02:20:43,670 --> 02:20:41,439
called okay uh i can't remember i was

3670
02:20:45,429 --> 02:20:43,680
hoping you'd remember so it'll pop up

3671
02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:45,439
here on twitter all we got to do is talk

3672
02:20:49,910 --> 02:20:47,280
about it but anyway

3673
02:20:53,030 --> 02:20:49,920
it's about her going down to peru

3674
02:20:54,870 --> 02:20:53,040
um and going through

3675
02:20:56,630 --> 02:20:54,880
all of the

3676
02:20:59,030 --> 02:20:56,640
uh steps

3677
02:21:01,110 --> 02:20:59,040
all of the pre-ceremony the knowledge of

3678
02:21:02,550 --> 02:21:01,120
what she was doing and then going up

3679
02:21:06,070 --> 02:21:02,560
into the mountains

3680
02:21:07,590 --> 02:21:06,080
full on every every day every step every

3681
02:21:10,630 --> 02:21:07,600
finally you know going through the

3682
02:21:12,389 --> 02:21:10,640
ceremony up on this uh cliff and she

3683
02:21:14,790 --> 02:21:12,399
goes she does the whole thing but the

3684
02:21:15,670 --> 02:21:14,800
point is we all know michelle rodriguez

3685
02:21:18,230 --> 02:21:15,680
right

3686
02:21:20,469 --> 02:21:18,240
and um i don't use foul language on this

3687
02:21:23,030 --> 02:21:20,479
show but michelle rodriguez is pretty

3688
02:21:24,830 --> 02:21:23,040
badass and we have a we have a

3689
02:21:28,309 --> 02:21:24,840
perception of her

3690
02:21:30,150 --> 02:21:28,319
of of of what she has done in her career

3691
02:21:31,990 --> 02:21:30,160
and and her personality right she's

3692
02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:32,000
pretty cool she's pretty rugged

3693
02:21:37,349 --> 02:21:33,760
she goes through the ceremony and then

3694
02:21:40,630 --> 02:21:37,359
michelle rodriguez afterwards

3695
02:21:43,349 --> 02:21:40,640
i don't i'm not even so sure that she

3696
02:21:45,270 --> 02:21:43,359
wanted to come back to civilization

3697
02:21:47,670 --> 02:21:45,280
i'm not so sure if she was too hip about

3698
02:21:49,750 --> 02:21:47,680
hollywood after that if you know what i

3699
02:21:54,389 --> 02:21:49,760
mean i do and

3700
02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:54,399
um and how is that uh uh for you

3701
02:21:57,750 --> 02:21:55,840
to come back

3702
02:21:59,510 --> 02:21:57,760
uh and to take a look around because you

3703
02:22:02,389 --> 02:21:59,520
just learned something about yourself

3704
02:22:03,510 --> 02:22:02,399
you've just had your epiphanies right

3705
02:22:05,510 --> 02:22:03,520
you've had something

3706
02:22:07,510 --> 02:22:05,520
yeah you've asked your questions and

3707
02:22:09,590 --> 02:22:07,520
you've gotten your answers that's all

3708
02:22:11,190 --> 02:22:09,600
part of the ceremony and then you come

3709
02:22:13,110 --> 02:22:11,200
back here and you drive past to

3710
02:22:14,230 --> 02:22:13,120
mcdonald's right or more or more

3711
02:22:16,389 --> 02:22:14,240
questions

3712
02:22:19,349 --> 02:22:16,399
yes that's exactly the point

3713
02:22:21,910 --> 02:22:19,359
and then you drive past walmart

3714
02:22:22,870 --> 02:22:21,920
you know what right how does that change

3715
02:22:24,950 --> 02:22:22,880
you i mean

3716
02:22:26,150 --> 02:22:24,960
well you can't you can't shut down

3717
02:22:27,750 --> 02:22:26,160
walmart

3718
02:22:31,190 --> 02:22:27,760
right or can you

3719
02:22:33,590 --> 02:22:31,200
well i'll tell you you know for me

3720
02:22:35,750 --> 02:22:33,600
what what i've been shown by by the

3721
02:22:37,429 --> 02:22:35,760
master teachers you know and by these

3722
02:22:40,230 --> 02:22:37,439
these these are teachers you know all of

3723
02:22:42,630 --> 02:22:40,240
these different plants and you know aya

3724
02:22:45,590 --> 02:22:42,640
is just one you know actually multiple

3725
02:22:46,630 --> 02:22:45,600
but it's one head one main teacher there

3726
02:22:48,150 --> 02:22:46,640
and it

3727
02:22:49,990 --> 02:22:48,160
shows up in various forms and

3728
02:22:52,070 --> 02:22:50,000
shapeshifts but some would say she's

3729
02:22:54,230 --> 02:22:52,080
connected to the anaconda which is the

3730
02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:54,240
ancient serpents that live in the deep

3731
02:22:57,590 --> 02:22:55,920
jungle you know these snakes are very

3732
02:22:59,670 --> 02:22:57,600
old you could even connect them to the

3733
02:23:01,830 --> 02:22:59,680
myths about dragons you know these are

3734
02:23:04,469 --> 02:23:01,840
old beings old earth beings and not in

3735
02:23:06,469 --> 02:23:04,479
this like scary like oh man evil serpent

3736
02:23:08,790 --> 02:23:06,479
like kind of you know the the devil kind

3737
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:08,800
of christian judeo-christian way but

3738
02:23:12,469 --> 02:23:10,000
more of like

3739
02:23:14,230 --> 02:23:12,479
the serpent as the keeper of knowledge

3740
02:23:16,550 --> 02:23:14,240
and of health and of eternal life and

3741
02:23:18,870 --> 02:23:16,560
all of that wisdom that is mystical

3742
02:23:21,190 --> 02:23:18,880
knowledge that has been largely lost and

3743
02:23:23,110 --> 02:23:21,200
so she communicates to us and one of the

3744
02:23:25,030 --> 02:23:23,120
things that she's helped me to see and

3745
02:23:27,110 --> 02:23:25,040
remember about myself and that's the

3746
02:23:28,950 --> 02:23:27,120
biggest thing is helping you remember

3747
02:23:31,030 --> 02:23:28,960
these these these doors to perception

3748
02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:31,040
they help us to remember information

3749
02:23:35,510 --> 02:23:33,520
that's been encoded and in our very dna

3750
02:23:37,270 --> 02:23:35,520
it's in our body but our minds forget

3751
02:23:39,110 --> 02:23:37,280
because we're forgetful beings

3752
02:23:40,710 --> 02:23:39,120
and of course now we use our cybernetic

3753
02:23:42,710 --> 02:23:40,720
technology of like our iphones or

3754
02:23:44,070 --> 02:23:42,720
whatever you know to extend our ability

3755
02:23:46,309 --> 02:23:44,080
and that's just going to increase as the

3756
02:23:49,670 --> 02:23:46,319
bandwidth gets widened from our thumbs

3757
02:23:52,070 --> 02:23:49,680
to mainline into an ai framework but

3758
02:23:54,150 --> 02:23:52,080
it's still this thing we forget

3759
02:23:55,429 --> 02:23:54,160
of why we really came here what are we

3760
02:23:57,030 --> 02:23:55,439
here to do

3761
02:23:59,510 --> 02:23:57,040
be better relative what does that look

3762
02:24:01,510 --> 02:23:59,520
like so for me she showed me

3763
02:24:02,950 --> 02:24:01,520
you're a shakaruna what is a shakaruna

3764
02:24:04,870 --> 02:24:02,960
that's a quechua word and it means

3765
02:24:06,150 --> 02:24:04,880
shakka means bridger

3766
02:24:08,630 --> 02:24:06,160
means people

3767
02:24:10,469 --> 02:24:08,640
so bridge person or bridge people so

3768
02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:10,479
what does that mean i'm a world bridger

3769
02:24:13,429 --> 02:24:12,000
and that's part of my medicine that i

3770
02:24:15,910 --> 02:24:13,439
bring to the world so what do i do

3771
02:24:18,230 --> 02:24:15,920
through music which is a powerful medium

3772
02:24:20,309 --> 02:24:18,240
of vibrational technology is helping to

3773
02:24:21,910 --> 02:24:20,319
bridge the worlds i bridge that world of

3774
02:24:24,550 --> 02:24:21,920
that ceremony there that a lot of people

3775
02:24:26,630 --> 02:24:24,560
can't go to or don't even understand how

3776
02:24:28,469 --> 02:24:26,640
to start to even approach and i bridge

3777
02:24:31,030 --> 02:24:28,479
it into the moment there in a festival

3778
02:24:33,030 --> 02:24:31,040
in a club you know on the stage or in a

3779
02:24:35,270 --> 02:24:33,040
retreat or in a session when i do my

3780
02:24:37,429 --> 02:24:35,280
healing work i'm there to basically help

3781
02:24:39,510 --> 02:24:37,439
that person connect to it and and

3782
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:39,520
shape-shift and bridge them to that

3783
02:24:42,950 --> 02:24:41,760
world so that they can remember why they

3784
02:24:44,469 --> 02:24:42,960
came here

3785
02:24:45,910 --> 02:24:44,479
and in doing that and of course

3786
02:24:47,910 --> 02:24:45,920
one-on-one session i only reach one

3787
02:24:49,590 --> 02:24:47,920
person i can go really deep with many

3788
02:24:51,270 --> 02:24:49,600
people on a stage i can reach many

3789
02:24:53,190 --> 02:24:51,280
people and that's kind of the thing how

3790
02:24:54,870 --> 02:24:53,200
do i amplify this because the time we're

3791
02:24:56,630 --> 02:24:54,880
in we have to accelerate this we're

3792
02:24:58,630 --> 02:24:56,640
running out of time right we have to cut

3793
02:25:00,150 --> 02:24:58,640
to commercial real quick and so this is

3794
02:25:02,710 --> 02:25:00,160
happening right now in our lives it's

3795
02:25:05,030 --> 02:25:02,720
like how do we get this and the way that

3796
02:25:07,030 --> 02:25:05,040
we do it is a bandwidth problem just

3797
02:25:08,389 --> 02:25:07,040
like i was talking about the ai it's

3798
02:25:13,429 --> 02:25:08,399
sound

3799
02:25:14,790 --> 02:25:13,439
more in a moment the emotion the feeling

3800
02:25:16,150 --> 02:25:14,800
that i can communicate through sound is

3801
02:25:18,309 --> 02:25:16,160
so much more powerful than all the words

3802
02:25:20,790 --> 02:25:18,319
i could ever say and that's really where

3803
02:25:22,870 --> 02:25:20,800
it comes down to and what at what point

3804
02:25:25,590 --> 02:25:22,880
uh we've got two minutes

3805
02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:25,600
at one point at what point does somebody

3806
02:25:28,870 --> 02:25:26,720
know

3807
02:25:31,590 --> 02:25:28,880
that they are ready

3808
02:25:33,830 --> 02:25:31,600
for the ceremony because it is

3809
02:25:35,910 --> 02:25:33,840
it's a true commitment i mean you

3810
02:25:37,670 --> 02:25:35,920
something that is about as serious as

3811
02:25:39,349 --> 02:25:37,680
anything that you will do in your life

3812
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:39,359
may be the most serious

3813
02:25:43,830 --> 02:25:41,920
but but at what point does somebody know

3814
02:25:46,309 --> 02:25:43,840
that they are ready

3815
02:25:48,150 --> 02:25:46,319
that's a great question i think that's

3816
02:25:50,950 --> 02:25:48,160
truly the question that we each have to

3817
02:25:52,070 --> 02:25:50,960
ask ourselves am i ready and you more

3818
02:25:54,790 --> 02:25:52,080
than likely you're going to say you're

3819
02:25:56,950 --> 02:25:54,800
not i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm

3820
02:25:59,830 --> 02:25:56,960
not yet i've had my i've had my

3821
02:26:00,950 --> 02:25:59,840
opportunities i've had the offers

3822
02:26:02,230 --> 02:26:00,960
uh

3823
02:26:04,070 --> 02:26:02,240
and

3824
02:26:05,910 --> 02:26:04,080
i'm not let me let me give you a quick

3825
02:26:07,429 --> 02:26:05,920
analogy so i like to look at the story

3826
02:26:09,510 --> 02:26:07,439
of the buffalo i don't know if you've

3827
02:26:11,349 --> 02:26:09,520
ever heard this so one of my elders he

3828
02:26:13,590 --> 02:26:11,359
once told me this lakota elder and he

3829
02:26:15,830 --> 02:26:13,600
says you know the buffalo they had all

3830
02:26:17,349 --> 02:26:15,840
they're very wise beings the herd of

3831
02:26:18,950 --> 02:26:17,359
buffalo when they used to roam in their

3832
02:26:21,750 --> 02:26:18,960
massive herds across the plains of the

3833
02:26:23,830 --> 02:26:21,760
americas they would always if they see a

3834
02:26:25,830 --> 02:26:23,840
storm coming on the horizon

3835
02:26:28,150 --> 02:26:25,840
they knew the intelligence of the herd

3836
02:26:30,230 --> 02:26:28,160
was not to run away from the storm it

3837
02:26:31,910 --> 02:26:30,240
was to go into the heart of the storm

3838
02:26:33,990 --> 02:26:31,920
and they would actually do that because

3839
02:26:36,150 --> 02:26:34,000
they knew if they could go into the fear

3840
02:26:38,230 --> 02:26:36,160
into the thing that was so ominous and

3841
02:26:39,990 --> 02:26:38,240
scary it would be the quickest way

3842
02:26:41,349 --> 02:26:40,000
through if they turned around and ran

3843
02:26:42,950 --> 02:26:41,359
away it would chase them and they would

3844
02:26:45,510 --> 02:26:42,960
be in the storm much much longer and

3845
02:26:47,270 --> 02:26:45,520
suffer way more and so i love that story

3846
02:26:49,110 --> 02:26:47,280
and remember the buffaloes because

3847
02:26:51,030 --> 02:26:49,120
whatever that fear is for you that comes

3848
02:26:52,630 --> 02:26:51,040
up for you and all everything comes up

3849
02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:52,640
on the way to ceremony by the way so

3850
02:26:56,309 --> 02:26:54,800
just know that is that you go through it

3851
02:26:58,309 --> 02:26:56,319
and if you can grab that courage

3852
02:27:00,309 --> 02:26:58,319
whatever inkling of courage you've got

3853
02:27:01,670 --> 02:27:00,319
take that with you with heart and use

3854
02:27:04,070 --> 02:27:01,680
your heart this isn't the mind but about

3855
02:27:05,910 --> 02:27:04,080
the heart and go into the fear and i

3856
02:27:07,590 --> 02:27:05,920
promise you that's where the medicine is

3857
02:27:09,110 --> 02:27:07,600
for you and it may not be the ceremony

3858
02:27:12,070 --> 02:27:09,120
it may look like something else but that

3859
02:27:14,309 --> 02:27:12,080
is the ceremony of life the the

3860
02:27:15,349 --> 02:27:14,319
documentary i was talking about is

3861
02:27:18,389 --> 02:27:15,359
called

3862
02:27:19,150 --> 02:27:18,399
the reality of truth

3863
02:27:22,550 --> 02:27:19,160
yes

3864
02:27:25,270 --> 02:27:22,560
2016. everybody's in a teapot choppers

3865
02:27:26,469 --> 02:27:25,280
in it peter coyote is the narrator he's

3866
02:27:31,510 --> 02:27:26,479
awesome

3867
02:27:35,750 --> 02:27:31,520
uh yeah ram das is uh is is in it and

3868
02:27:37,670 --> 02:27:35,760
and pretty much if uh david lynch right

3869
02:27:39,830 --> 02:27:37,680
oh yeah and you know of course uh

3870
02:27:42,630 --> 02:27:39,840
michelle rodriguez but

3871
02:27:44,550 --> 02:27:42,640
uh it's a it's an amazing documentary i

3872
02:27:46,309 --> 02:27:44,560
recommend it highly i'm going to look

3873
02:27:48,230 --> 02:27:46,319
that up right now yeah reality of truth

3874
02:27:51,349 --> 02:27:48,240
the reality of truth

3875
02:27:53,670 --> 02:27:51,359
man man man

3876
02:27:55,910 --> 02:27:53,680
man you know you just want to hold

3877
02:27:57,670 --> 02:27:55,920
michelle there's a couple of times in in

3878
02:28:01,110 --> 02:27:57,680
the movie where

3879
02:28:03,270 --> 02:28:01,120
she is right on the edge of uh which we

3880
02:28:06,309 --> 02:28:03,280
all want to be at that point but she's

3881
02:28:08,790 --> 02:28:06,319
literally questioning everything

3882
02:28:10,150 --> 02:28:08,800
you know i mean yeah i'm not i'm not

3883
02:28:12,790 --> 02:28:10,160
playing around let's uh let's take a

3884
02:28:14,710 --> 02:28:12,800
break right here and uh we'll pick up

3885
02:28:16,070 --> 02:28:14,720
let's do a little overtime normally we

3886
02:28:18,070 --> 02:28:16,080
say good night right here we're not

3887
02:28:20,389 --> 02:28:18,080
going to do that let's uh okay let's

3888
02:28:22,469 --> 02:28:20,399
keep this going it's too good

3889
02:28:24,630 --> 02:28:22,479
right yeah absolutely

3890
02:28:26,710 --> 02:28:24,640
stay with us this is fade to black our

3891
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3892
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3983
02:33:25,910 --> 02:33:20,250
welcome back fade to black i'm nervous

3984
02:33:31,349 --> 02:33:29,270
we are talking about well we do

3985
02:33:34,150 --> 02:33:31,359
i'm just gonna say i

3986
02:33:36,230 --> 02:33:34,160
i'm laughing i i have we we have talked

3987
02:33:39,349 --> 02:33:36,240
about everything tonight uh we've gotten

3988
02:33:40,870 --> 02:33:39,359
it all on the table um i just got a

3989
02:33:42,790 --> 02:33:40,880
question that just popped up in twitter

3990
02:33:44,950 --> 02:33:42,800
there's a bunch of them here but uh what

3991
02:33:46,309 --> 02:33:44,960
was uh the documentary that you did the

3992
02:33:48,550 --> 02:33:46,319
soundtrack for

3993
02:33:51,429 --> 02:33:48,560
it was actually titled ayahuasca and

3994
02:33:55,830 --> 02:33:51,439
that came out in like 2015.

3995
02:33:57,510 --> 02:33:55,840
uh 2016. yeah 2016. okay and so that's

3996
02:33:59,030 --> 02:33:57,520
uh that's what it's called simply

3997
02:34:01,030 --> 02:33:59,040
ayahuasca

3998
02:34:03,750 --> 02:34:01,040
yeah people can uh they can check it out

3999
02:34:05,910 --> 02:34:03,760
it's through aubry marcus.com um he's

4000
02:34:07,670 --> 02:34:05,920
he's the ceo of on it but he also does a

4001
02:34:09,429 --> 02:34:07,680
lot around kind of sharing with the

4002
02:34:12,150 --> 02:34:09,439
world about you know various plant

4003
02:34:13,910 --> 02:34:12,160
teachers and yeah he's definitely uh his

4004
02:34:15,510 --> 02:34:13,920
website though through there you'll find

4005
02:34:17,990 --> 02:34:15,520
the links and i think the there's a

4006
02:34:19,750 --> 02:34:18,000
short link that goes there as well but

4007
02:34:22,070 --> 02:34:19,760
uh i think that's the easiest way is

4008
02:34:24,550 --> 02:34:22,080
aubreymarkets.com yeah there you go now

4009
02:34:27,030 --> 02:34:24,560
the reason why i say

4010
02:34:28,309 --> 02:34:27,040
that i'm scared

4011
02:34:32,150 --> 02:34:28,319
is

4012
02:34:34,309 --> 02:34:32,160
the reason why

4013
02:34:37,110 --> 02:34:34,319
sometimes

4014
02:34:39,750 --> 02:34:37,120
we're scared of the answers

4015
02:34:40,870 --> 02:34:39,760
that's you know and and there's this you

4016
02:34:45,349 --> 02:34:40,880
know you don't want to open up the

4017
02:34:46,550 --> 02:34:45,359
pandora's box oh right and and maybe

4018
02:34:47,910 --> 02:34:46,560
uh

4019
02:34:50,230 --> 02:34:47,920
maybe

4020
02:34:53,270 --> 02:34:50,240
some are just comfortable in the

4021
02:34:55,429 --> 02:34:53,280
incorrectness of their life

4022
02:34:57,910 --> 02:34:55,439
you know and totally oh you said the key

4023
02:35:00,309 --> 02:34:57,920
word comfort right right and yeah we're

4024
02:35:04,790 --> 02:35:00,319
comfortable and the

4025
02:35:08,389 --> 02:35:04,800
the idea of being into a situation that

4026
02:35:10,469 --> 02:35:08,399
i'm not 100 fully in control of

4027
02:35:13,830 --> 02:35:10,479
because you are not

4028
02:35:16,150 --> 02:35:13,840
right you are not um and

4029
02:35:18,870 --> 02:35:16,160
uh when i have heard the different

4030
02:35:22,150 --> 02:35:18,880
descriptions of you know here you know

4031
02:35:23,270 --> 02:35:22,160
at dmt 10 minutes in and out right 15

4032
02:35:26,230 --> 02:35:23,280
minutes

4033
02:35:30,070 --> 02:35:26,240
in and out well okay but that's 15

4034
02:35:33,910 --> 02:35:30,080
minutes where i am not in control

4035
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:33,920
and so there's that part of it too

4036
02:35:37,830 --> 02:35:35,920
you know and that's that's that's what

4037
02:35:40,950 --> 02:35:37,840
i'm really and it would have to be the

4038
02:35:43,030 --> 02:35:40,960
absolute uh perfect situation perfect

4039
02:35:45,270 --> 02:35:43,040
setting perfect shaman

4040
02:35:46,870 --> 02:35:45,280
perfect you know the mood the sun the

4041
02:35:49,429 --> 02:35:46,880
moon the stars

4042
02:35:51,349 --> 02:35:49,439
everything has got to be perfect for me

4043
02:35:53,590 --> 02:35:51,359
to consider it

4044
02:35:55,670 --> 02:35:53,600
and i just haven't been at that point

4045
02:35:57,270 --> 02:35:55,680
been close though i've been close i'll

4046
02:35:59,270 --> 02:35:57,280
admit i've been

4047
02:36:02,230 --> 02:35:59,280
i've been in situations where it was

4048
02:36:03,990 --> 02:36:02,240
right there now um and this is the other

4049
02:36:06,469 --> 02:36:04,000
thing

4050
02:36:07,429 --> 02:36:06,479
let me ask you this very direct by the

4051
02:36:09,670 --> 02:36:07,439
way

4052
02:36:12,309 --> 02:36:09,680
let's suppose

4053
02:36:15,349 --> 02:36:12,319
you and i

4054
02:36:16,950 --> 02:36:15,359
and rita right okay we're down in peru

4055
02:36:20,230 --> 02:36:16,960
we're down in peru

4056
02:36:22,469 --> 02:36:20,240
perfect setting right mountaintop

4057
02:36:25,110 --> 02:36:22,479
everything you know and

4058
02:36:27,429 --> 02:36:25,120
and it's just right there and we are

4059
02:36:30,309 --> 02:36:27,439
we're six hours in

4060
02:36:33,270 --> 02:36:30,319
okay all right are you with me six hours

4061
02:36:35,910 --> 02:36:33,280
into ceremony is after drinking

4062
02:36:37,429 --> 02:36:35,920
we are we are six hours in we are

4063
02:36:38,469 --> 02:36:37,439
official all right

4064
02:36:39,990 --> 02:36:38,479
okay

4065
02:36:42,550 --> 02:36:40,000
we are at the no

4066
02:36:43,830 --> 02:36:42,560
no turning back okay so anyway we're six

4067
02:36:46,150 --> 02:36:43,840
hours in

4068
02:36:48,870 --> 02:36:46,160
and then um

4069
02:36:51,190 --> 02:36:48,880
something real happens

4070
02:36:54,469 --> 02:36:51,200
a light comes down from the sky

4071
02:36:57,030 --> 02:36:54,479
descends and is in front of us

4072
02:36:59,590 --> 02:36:57,040
and and that happens

4073
02:37:02,230 --> 02:36:59,600
we're already into a life-changing

4074
02:37:04,710 --> 02:37:02,240
ceremony and then something like that

4075
02:37:06,630 --> 02:37:04,720
happens during the ceremony that is out

4076
02:37:09,429 --> 02:37:06,640
of our control

4077
02:37:12,870 --> 02:37:09,439
do we remember that does that affect us

4078
02:37:15,830 --> 02:37:12,880
does that change the ceremony

4079
02:37:18,550 --> 02:37:15,840
um what would happen you know for you

4080
02:37:20,550 --> 02:37:18,560
that is you know you've experienced this

4081
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:20,560
enough that if something like that

4082
02:37:23,190 --> 02:37:21,760
happened

4083
02:37:27,270 --> 02:37:23,200
then

4084
02:37:28,950 --> 02:37:27,280
that is something else that i'm a little

4085
02:37:31,910 --> 02:37:28,960
bit afraid of

4086
02:37:35,510 --> 02:37:31,920
you know the combination of the reality

4087
02:37:37,750 --> 02:37:35,520
of the 2d world that we live in

4088
02:37:42,630 --> 02:37:37,760
and something like that happens during

4089
02:37:45,590 --> 02:37:44,550
so the question is

4090
02:37:47,110 --> 02:37:45,600
what do we do

4091
02:37:51,030 --> 02:37:47,120
what would happen

4092
02:37:53,510 --> 02:37:51,040
are colliding aren't they

4093
02:37:54,950 --> 02:37:53,520
yeah i guess oh it's interesting

4094
02:37:56,630 --> 02:37:54,960
you know when you say the two worlds you

4095
02:37:58,230 --> 02:37:56,640
mean just there's

4096
02:38:00,070 --> 02:37:58,240
the kind of the

4097
02:38:01,510 --> 02:38:00,080
waking life let's call it that's right

4098
02:38:02,389 --> 02:38:01,520
and then and then there's kind of the

4099
02:38:04,550 --> 02:38:02,399
life

4100
02:38:07,349 --> 02:38:04,560
where we start to go into the other

4101
02:38:09,030 --> 02:38:07,359
realms of the unseen world correct

4102
02:38:10,309 --> 02:38:09,040
yeah and then there's another layer that

4103
02:38:12,150 --> 02:38:10,319
you threw on there of the slight

4104
02:38:14,309 --> 02:38:12,160
descending so are you referring to to

4105
02:38:16,550 --> 02:38:14,319
extraterrestrial that's right yes yes

4106
02:38:17,990 --> 02:38:16,560
yes yeah so there's kind of three yeah

4107
02:38:19,429 --> 02:38:18,000
you have the three dimensions kind of

4108
02:38:22,070 --> 02:38:19,439
all working together in that in that

4109
02:38:23,429 --> 02:38:22,080
those three vectors um i mean to be

4110
02:38:26,070 --> 02:38:23,439
totally honest

4111
02:38:27,349 --> 02:38:26,080
i think when you're when i've been in

4112
02:38:30,389 --> 02:38:27,359
that space and i can only speak to i

4113
02:38:32,469 --> 02:38:30,399
guess my own experience

4114
02:38:33,830 --> 02:38:32,479
you very much

4115
02:38:37,270 --> 02:38:33,840
in connected

4116
02:38:39,670 --> 02:38:37,280
total connection so totally empathic all

4117
02:38:42,550 --> 02:38:39,680
psychic channels open ability to

4118
02:38:44,550 --> 02:38:42,560
perceive the imperceptible tune into

4119
02:38:46,630 --> 02:38:44,560
like the most minute like i can hear

4120
02:38:49,670 --> 02:38:46,640
like individual drops of rain and see

4121
02:38:51,110 --> 02:38:49,680
them with my inner vision um as a

4122
02:38:52,870 --> 02:38:51,120
they're hitting the maloka you know the

4123
02:38:54,950 --> 02:38:52,880
ceremonial lodge if you will that

4124
02:38:57,670 --> 02:38:54,960
falling from you know sky and i can see

4125
02:38:59,830 --> 02:38:57,680
them in three-dimensional space so

4126
02:39:01,830 --> 02:38:59,840
it's you're so tuned in and i've

4127
02:39:03,510 --> 02:39:01,840
actually it's it's like i feel if we

4128
02:39:05,590 --> 02:39:03,520
were in that scenario and you know

4129
02:39:07,510 --> 02:39:05,600
supposing that we are then visited that

4130
02:39:09,270 --> 02:39:07,520
time by star beings i would almost say

4131
02:39:11,030 --> 02:39:09,280
it's it's um

4132
02:39:13,910 --> 02:39:11,040
yeah it's actually

4133
02:39:17,110 --> 02:39:13,920
it's kind of normal

4134
02:39:17,990 --> 02:39:17,120
i'm in that space and i've been in that

4135
02:39:20,550 --> 02:39:18,000
space

4136
02:39:22,870 --> 02:39:20,560
um i've been visited by so many beings

4137
02:39:24,550 --> 02:39:22,880
and these beings are you know they

4138
02:39:26,870 --> 02:39:24,560
they've never had bad intention like

4139
02:39:28,230 --> 02:39:26,880
i've never had personally i know people

4140
02:39:30,550 --> 02:39:28,240
talk about having

4141
02:39:32,550 --> 02:39:30,560
more difficult experiences but

4142
02:39:34,309 --> 02:39:32,560
i there's something that i always take

4143
02:39:36,630 --> 02:39:34,319
with me and and kind of you said it

4144
02:39:39,429 --> 02:39:36,640
there you said you know kind of the fear

4145
02:39:40,550 --> 02:39:39,439
um of the discomfort because is what i'm

4146
02:39:41,990 --> 02:39:40,560
you know filling in the blank when you

4147
02:39:43,750 --> 02:39:42,000
say like you know fear of not being

4148
02:39:44,950 --> 02:39:43,760
comfortable or like right what's gonna

4149
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:44,960
come right

4150
02:39:48,389 --> 02:39:46,800
and so i really i i really think that

4151
02:39:50,790 --> 02:39:48,399
pink floyd hit it on the on the head

4152
02:39:52,550 --> 02:39:50,800
right in his famous lyrics you know of

4153
02:39:55,030 --> 02:39:52,560
comfortably numb right

4154
02:39:57,030 --> 02:39:55,040
it's like we've become comfortably numb

4155
02:40:00,309 --> 02:39:57,040
in our society and i feel that's the

4156
02:40:02,790 --> 02:40:00,319
biggest fear is that we're scared to

4157
02:40:05,190 --> 02:40:02,800
venture outside of our comfort zone and

4158
02:40:06,630 --> 02:40:05,200
in so doing our comfort zone actually is

4159
02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:06,640
not a comfort zone it's actually a

4160
02:40:11,429 --> 02:40:09,520
prison there's literally bars there and

4161
02:40:13,590 --> 02:40:11,439
we're like we're free in america we're

4162
02:40:15,910 --> 02:40:13,600
actually not free we're free to consume

4163
02:40:17,510 --> 02:40:15,920
you're free to buy stuff that's about as

4164
02:40:19,190 --> 02:40:17,520
free as you really are when you get down

4165
02:40:21,190 --> 02:40:19,200
to it and so it's like it's kind of a

4166
02:40:23,190 --> 02:40:21,200
really harsh awakening and i think the

4167
02:40:25,270 --> 02:40:23,200
matrix to draw another kind of parallel

4168
02:40:28,070 --> 02:40:25,280
there you know the movie the matrix

4169
02:40:29,830 --> 02:40:28,080
right that concept was very beautiful

4170
02:40:31,990 --> 02:40:29,840
beautifully executed right the red pill

4171
02:40:34,070 --> 02:40:32,000
the blue pill and so it's like are you

4172
02:40:37,270 --> 02:40:34,080
ready to get jettisoned out of your

4173
02:40:40,230 --> 02:40:37,280
comfortable nice steak meal

4174
02:40:42,309 --> 02:40:40,240
and and get thrown out into the cosmos

4175
02:40:44,070 --> 02:40:42,319
and what's gonna happen it's like yes

4176
02:40:45,990 --> 02:40:44,080
that is the great unknown now here's the

4177
02:40:48,630 --> 02:40:46,000
beauty of it

4178
02:40:50,950 --> 02:40:48,640
there there is so much beauty in that

4179
02:40:52,389 --> 02:40:50,960
unknown and the fact is you're always in

4180
02:40:53,910 --> 02:40:52,399
the unknown

4181
02:40:55,510 --> 02:40:53,920
it's all unknown man you could get up

4182
02:40:58,309 --> 02:40:55,520
tomorrow get in your car go to your

4183
02:41:00,150 --> 02:40:58,319
eight to five and be head head-on

4184
02:41:02,230 --> 02:41:00,160
collision and you're gone

4185
02:41:04,150 --> 02:41:02,240
and you just don't know like it's that's

4186
02:41:06,309 --> 02:41:04,160
the fact right you never got those

4187
02:41:09,190 --> 02:41:06,319
answers you don't we don't we actually

4188
02:41:10,790 --> 02:41:09,200
don't and so when we're able to go to

4189
02:41:12,389 --> 02:41:10,800
that edge and actually go within a good

4190
02:41:13,830 --> 02:41:12,399
context like you've done your homework

4191
02:41:15,830 --> 02:41:13,840
you're sitting with someone who's of

4192
02:41:17,830 --> 02:41:15,840
integrity which is essential you've

4193
02:41:19,270 --> 02:41:17,840
gotten good references you're sitting in

4194
02:41:20,950 --> 02:41:19,280
a place that you know is a good place

4195
02:41:24,070 --> 02:41:20,960
they're holding that medicine in a good

4196
02:41:26,630 --> 02:41:24,080
way in a lineage way and and it's you're

4197
02:41:28,389 --> 02:41:26,640
going there with a clear heart yourself

4198
02:41:30,870 --> 02:41:28,399
a brave heart because it does require

4199
02:41:33,429 --> 02:41:30,880
the brave heart there's no joke it is

4200
02:41:35,030 --> 02:41:33,439
this is not light work but it's not like

4201
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:35,040
we're not just going to go have a drink

4202
02:41:38,230 --> 02:41:36,160
it's like you're going to go have a

4203
02:41:40,710 --> 02:41:38,240
drink but this is a drink that rather

4204
02:41:41,590 --> 02:41:40,720
than you know drinking so much that you

4205
02:41:48,550 --> 02:41:41,600
purge

4206
02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:48,560
getting well and this getting well is

4207
02:41:53,190 --> 02:41:50,560
because you're literally pulling toxins

4208
02:41:55,910 --> 02:41:53,200
this plant medicine is taking stuff that

4209
02:41:57,670 --> 02:41:55,920
is not good it's taking out the bad so

4210
02:41:59,270 --> 02:41:57,680
that you can put in the good

4211
02:42:01,429 --> 02:41:59,280
and the difference between we were

4212
02:42:03,349 --> 02:42:01,439
saying earlier about the 15-minute dmt

4213
02:42:06,309 --> 02:42:03,359
experience or even some people really

4214
02:42:08,630 --> 02:42:06,319
fast like five minute peak right versus

4215
02:42:09,910 --> 02:42:08,640
a four to six hour you know ayahuasca

4216
02:42:11,590 --> 02:42:09,920
ceremony

4217
02:42:13,349 --> 02:42:11,600
sometimes a little longer you you would

4218
02:42:14,230 --> 02:42:13,359
re-up your dose but typically in that

4219
02:42:15,510 --> 02:42:14,240
range

4220
02:42:17,990 --> 02:42:15,520
is that

4221
02:42:20,150 --> 02:42:18,000
i uh she's gentle like i said she's a

4222
02:42:22,230 --> 02:42:20,160
mother or grandmother she's a an elder

4223
02:42:24,550 --> 02:42:22,240
spirit that doesn't want to she's not

4224
02:42:26,070 --> 02:42:24,560
trying to beat you up now not to say

4225
02:42:28,230 --> 02:42:26,080
people don't have some rough experiences

4226
02:42:29,750 --> 02:42:28,240
maybe they got a lot of toxic stuff that

4227
02:42:31,830 --> 02:42:29,760
they're dealing with and literally

4228
02:42:33,750 --> 02:42:31,840
purging out and like i've heard stuff

4229
02:42:35,590 --> 02:42:33,760
come into the bucket the purge bucket

4230
02:42:37,349 --> 02:42:35,600
that sounds like glass man stuff that

4231
02:42:39,670 --> 02:42:37,359
you're like how the hell was that even

4232
02:42:42,070 --> 02:42:39,680
in me and people report all kinds of

4233
02:42:43,910 --> 02:42:42,080
stuff but afterwards they feel amazing

4234
02:42:47,110 --> 02:42:43,920
they feel totally rejuvenated totally

4235
02:42:48,950 --> 02:42:47,120
healed transformed truly and i think the

4236
02:42:51,349 --> 02:42:48,960
price that you pay for a little

4237
02:42:52,870 --> 02:42:51,359
discomfort it's it's so worth it man

4238
02:42:54,710 --> 02:42:52,880
that price of entry is actually super

4239
02:42:56,309 --> 02:42:54,720
low when you really get down to it not

4240
02:42:58,469 --> 02:42:56,319
to mention when you get present with the

4241
02:43:00,309 --> 02:42:58,479
fact that you're always in the unknown

4242
02:43:02,550 --> 02:43:00,319
you just you have the illusion

4243
02:43:05,110 --> 02:43:02,560
it's totally a fabrication this is it's

4244
02:43:06,150 --> 02:43:05,120
a hologram that you're safe and that

4245
02:43:07,670 --> 02:43:06,160
everything's going to work because you

4246
02:43:09,429 --> 02:43:07,680
know the government shuts down look

4247
02:43:11,110 --> 02:43:09,439
who's our president look look what's

4248
02:43:12,950 --> 02:43:11,120
happening right now on the planet like

4249
02:43:13,990 --> 02:43:12,960
it's crazy antarctica is melting as we

4250
02:43:15,270 --> 02:43:14,000
speak and people are still want to

4251
02:43:16,710 --> 02:43:15,280
debate about it you know what i mean

4252
02:43:18,870 --> 02:43:16,720
it's like okay

4253
02:43:20,630 --> 02:43:18,880
it it comes down to the fact that this

4254
02:43:22,389 --> 02:43:20,640
is an opportunity for people i think if

4255
02:43:24,230 --> 02:43:22,399
you're ready and i'm not saying by the

4256
02:43:26,389 --> 02:43:24,240
way in all this i don't want to advocate

4257
02:43:28,070 --> 02:43:26,399
at all that that's the only way i think

4258
02:43:30,309 --> 02:43:28,080
you can totally reach these states just

4259
02:43:32,230 --> 02:43:30,319
through using dance just through using

4260
02:43:33,990 --> 02:43:32,240
music just through using breath just

4261
02:43:36,630 --> 02:43:34,000
through meditation like there's so many

4262
02:43:39,110 --> 02:43:36,640
roads to take you up this mountain yeah

4263
02:43:41,429 --> 02:43:39,120
but it is a powerful road and for those

4264
02:43:44,070 --> 02:43:41,439
who are like ready and courageous and

4265
02:43:45,910 --> 02:43:44,080
ready to do the inner work and get i

4266
02:43:47,750 --> 02:43:45,920
would argue is kind of like get the

4267
02:43:49,830 --> 02:43:47,760
cannonball you know you could hike up

4268
02:43:52,309 --> 02:43:49,840
this with meditation or you could get

4269
02:43:54,230 --> 02:43:52,319
like the cannonball launch you you know

4270
02:43:56,710 --> 02:43:54,240
through the cannon up to the top for a

4271
02:43:59,269 --> 02:43:56,720
little while and you know and the thing

4272
02:44:00,710 --> 02:43:59,279
is dmt that five minute peak experience

4273
02:44:02,309 --> 02:44:00,720
that's gonna launch you so fast that

4274
02:44:04,790 --> 02:44:02,319
you're probably gonna miss

4275
02:44:06,230 --> 02:44:04,800
most of the key wisdom like you said am

4276
02:44:07,190 --> 02:44:06,240
i going to remember this afterwards

4277
02:44:08,870 --> 02:44:07,200
right you're probably not going to

4278
02:44:10,469 --> 02:44:08,880
remember the really important things to

4279
02:44:12,550 --> 02:44:10,479
be honest because it's just so much so

4280
02:44:14,710 --> 02:44:12,560
fast and we don't have the bandwidth you

4281
02:44:16,870 --> 02:44:14,720
know we're forgetful beings but

4282
02:44:18,389 --> 02:44:16,880
aya she's actually very masterful the

4283
02:44:20,950 --> 02:44:18,399
combination the technology of those

4284
02:44:23,510 --> 02:44:20,960
plants it creates a portal of that six

4285
02:44:25,349 --> 02:44:23,520
hours that's just about the sweet spot

4286
02:44:27,830 --> 02:44:25,359
where you actually can have full-on

4287
02:44:30,630 --> 02:44:27,840
dialogue and communicate and actually

4288
02:44:32,790 --> 02:44:30,640
remember and have retention when you

4289
02:44:35,349 --> 02:44:32,800
come out and be able to journal down and

4290
02:44:38,550 --> 02:44:35,359
actually walk away with some powerful

4291
02:44:41,190 --> 02:44:38,560
insights and lessons and and yeah that

4292
02:44:42,870 --> 02:44:41,200
changed human and i feel so if i were to

4293
02:44:44,630 --> 02:44:42,880
choose if i were to recommend one over

4294
02:44:46,950 --> 02:44:44,640
the other if we're just looking at these

4295
02:44:48,230 --> 02:44:46,960
two things as two possible paths right i

4296
02:44:50,469 --> 02:44:48,240
would definitely recommend sitting with

4297
02:44:51,750 --> 02:44:50,479
ayah i feel like dmt is an isolated

4298
02:44:53,830 --> 02:44:51,760
molecule it's like anything it's like

4299
02:44:56,070 --> 02:44:53,840
farm pharmacology right

4300
02:44:58,230 --> 02:44:56,080
yeah you get you get all the bang but

4301
02:44:59,269 --> 02:44:58,240
you miss the you miss the wisdom you

4302
02:45:00,630 --> 02:44:59,279
miss you know what i mean you kind of

4303
02:45:02,950 --> 02:45:00,640
get the effect you can get a lot of

4304
02:45:04,469 --> 02:45:02,960
visuals but you miss really what you're

4305
02:45:05,590 --> 02:45:04,479
going there to do i'm not just going for

4306
02:45:07,429 --> 02:45:05,600
the light show that's actually the

4307
02:45:09,110 --> 02:45:07,439
boring part to me once you've done this

4308
02:45:10,630 --> 02:45:09,120
work enough you get and talk to the

4309
02:45:12,150 --> 02:45:10,640
kuranderos and the shamans and they'll

4310
02:45:13,910 --> 02:45:12,160
tell you that's just the light show

4311
02:45:15,830 --> 02:45:13,920
let's just kind of make you like be able

4312
02:45:18,550 --> 02:45:15,840
to sit there long enough but the real

4313
02:45:20,150 --> 02:45:18,560
the real important work is the insights

4314
02:45:21,590 --> 02:45:20,160
that you get and that's the

4315
02:45:23,670 --> 02:45:21,600
communication that comes through and

4316
02:45:25,670 --> 02:45:23,680
it's sometimes visceral sometimes it's a

4317
02:45:27,670 --> 02:45:25,680
dream it's a vision sometimes it's just

4318
02:45:29,269 --> 02:45:27,680
literally a feeling that overwhelms you

4319
02:45:30,389 --> 02:45:29,279
like suddenly self-love like maybe

4320
02:45:31,510 --> 02:45:30,399
you've just been

4321
02:45:32,950 --> 02:45:31,520
really feeling like you're hating

4322
02:45:35,429 --> 02:45:32,960
yourself and hating your life and just

4323
02:45:37,510 --> 02:45:35,439
really depressed and all of a sudden you

4324
02:45:39,030 --> 02:45:37,520
you're shown what it feels like to love

4325
02:45:40,870 --> 02:45:39,040
yourself again

4326
02:45:45,030 --> 02:45:40,880
you know and yeah yeah

4327
02:45:46,550 --> 02:45:45,040
yeah yeah it's a cyclical thing too i um

4328
02:45:47,830 --> 02:45:46,560
uh

4329
02:45:50,150 --> 02:45:47,840
every time

4330
02:45:52,070 --> 02:45:50,160
my last experience i should say uh going

4331
02:45:53,990 --> 02:45:52,080
up to e-city where i was up there for

4332
02:45:57,990 --> 02:45:54,000
you know seven eight days

4333
02:46:00,230 --> 02:45:58,000
um uh completely free of of chemicals

4334
02:46:02,230 --> 02:46:00,240
and alcohol and everything else just

4335
02:46:04,790 --> 02:46:02,240
eating healthy and and out there with

4336
02:46:06,230 --> 02:46:04,800
nature no television no radio

4337
02:46:07,269 --> 02:46:06,240
you know nothing

4338
02:46:10,870 --> 02:46:07,279
and

4339
02:46:13,349 --> 02:46:10,880
really cool things that are going down

4340
02:46:15,349 --> 02:46:13,359
you're making contact and there's

4341
02:46:18,389 --> 02:46:15,359
uh spiritual things that are happening

4342
02:46:21,030 --> 02:46:18,399
on the ground and it it's just it's it's

4343
02:46:22,870 --> 02:46:21,040
just cleansing and incredible then you

4344
02:46:25,030 --> 02:46:22,880
get on a plane

4345
02:46:27,269 --> 02:46:25,040
and you fly back to l.a

4346
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:27,279
and you immediately get off the plane

4347
02:46:31,750 --> 02:46:29,680
and onto a freeway

4348
02:46:33,269 --> 02:46:31,760
and you're just looking around going you

4349
02:46:35,429 --> 02:46:33,279
know what

4350
02:46:37,750 --> 02:46:35,439
i don't want to be here

4351
02:46:39,670 --> 02:46:37,760
and you it's this this shock to the

4352
02:46:42,070 --> 02:46:39,680
system and you look around and the

4353
02:46:44,950 --> 02:46:42,080
infrastructure of

4354
02:46:46,230 --> 02:46:44,960
of everything in place for everybody day

4355
02:46:47,110 --> 02:46:46,240
to day

4356
02:46:50,790 --> 02:46:47,120
to

4357
02:46:54,150 --> 02:46:50,800
make los angeles work right it's a very

4358
02:46:55,990 --> 02:46:54,160
complex living breathing thing that is a

4359
02:46:57,030 --> 02:46:56,000
giant city like this

4360
02:47:00,070 --> 02:46:57,040
right and

4361
02:47:02,790 --> 02:47:00,080
it's it's a it's a transition where you

4362
02:47:05,030 --> 02:47:02,800
you start to question everything

4363
02:47:07,510 --> 02:47:05,040
you know and and and and i've gone

4364
02:47:09,590 --> 02:47:07,520
through that with no

4365
02:47:11,590 --> 02:47:09,600
uh psycho

4366
02:47:12,870 --> 02:47:11,600
you know psychedelics

4367
02:47:15,190 --> 02:47:12,880
right you know what i mean

4368
02:47:16,469 --> 02:47:15,200
oh yeah no i've done it a lot myself i

4369
02:47:18,870 --> 02:47:16,479
mean you know i don't know if you know

4370
02:47:21,110 --> 02:47:18,880
this i'm also a sun dancer which is a

4371
02:47:23,349 --> 02:47:21,120
whole other conversation but um it's

4372
02:47:25,110 --> 02:47:23,359
it's it's a very important lineage one

4373
02:47:27,190 --> 02:47:25,120
of the seven sacred ceremonies that is

4374
02:47:29,990 --> 02:47:27,200
passed down through the lakota sioux and

4375
02:47:31,990 --> 02:47:30,000
uh tribes and i've been honored to to be

4376
02:47:33,910 --> 02:47:32,000
adopted by family and to dance and

4377
02:47:36,469 --> 02:47:33,920
that's part of my road a spiritual you

4378
02:47:38,150 --> 02:47:36,479
know person and in that just to

4379
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:38,160
summarize a lot of people probably maybe

4380
02:47:40,710 --> 02:47:39,120
you've heard of it you've probably heard

4381
02:47:42,630 --> 02:47:40,720
of it because of a festival a movie

4382
02:47:44,550 --> 02:47:42,640
festival but it's a lot more it's they

4383
02:47:45,590 --> 02:47:44,560
got the name from this this very ancient

4384
02:47:50,070 --> 02:47:45,600
ceremony

4385
02:47:51,990 --> 02:47:50,080
you don't use any anthrogenic plants you

4386
02:47:54,790 --> 02:47:52,000
don't use any any medicine plants but

4387
02:47:55,990 --> 02:47:54,800
you work i mean maybe tobacco um i guess

4388
02:47:58,150 --> 02:47:56,000
you could call it that because that is a

4389
02:48:00,870 --> 02:47:58,160
master plan but we work specifically

4390
02:48:03,110 --> 02:48:00,880
with just working with no food no water

4391
02:48:05,349 --> 02:48:03,120
dancing from sunrise to sunset and

4392
02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:05,359
purifying with sweat lodge you know just

4393
02:48:09,030 --> 02:48:07,840
sweating right and you're in prayer for

4394
02:48:11,670 --> 02:48:09,040
those four days and the only way your

4395
02:48:14,150 --> 02:48:11,680
body can physically make it through that

4396
02:48:16,550 --> 02:48:14,160
is if you can really anchor yourself in

4397
02:48:19,190 --> 02:48:16,560
the pr in your prayers because if you

4398
02:48:20,870 --> 02:48:19,200
think about how much your body hurts or

4399
02:48:23,429 --> 02:48:20,880
how much like you're thirsty and how

4400
02:48:25,429 --> 02:48:23,439
hungry you are you were in hell but the

4401
02:48:27,269 --> 02:48:25,439
moment you shift your focus out to like

4402
02:48:28,710 --> 02:48:27,279
why you're there dancing and that you

4403
02:48:29,910 --> 02:48:28,720
start thinking about all the people that

4404
02:48:31,990 --> 02:48:29,920
you've known in your life all their

4405
02:48:34,150 --> 02:48:32,000
faces come to you in that moment and you

4406
02:48:36,469 --> 02:48:34,160
start sending them your prayers it's

4407
02:48:38,389 --> 02:48:36,479
ancient technology man it opens up this

4408
02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:38,399
portal and you start to receive visions

4409
02:48:43,190 --> 02:48:40,640
without anything no external substance

4410
02:48:45,269 --> 02:48:43,200
just what's built in into your body and

4411
02:48:46,950 --> 02:48:45,279
so it's all in us in fact we don't need

4412
02:48:48,630 --> 02:48:46,960
all the external stuff and we don't need

4413
02:48:50,150 --> 02:48:48,640
actually these plants necessarily we can

4414
02:48:52,389 --> 02:48:50,160
get there like i said with other things

4415
02:48:54,790 --> 02:48:52,399
and i encourage people to do that a lot

4416
02:48:55,990 --> 02:48:54,800
of my work is even though i have this

4417
02:48:58,550 --> 02:48:56,000
background

4418
02:49:00,309 --> 02:48:58,560
it's about encouraging people to

4419
02:49:02,230 --> 02:49:00,319
sobriety is actually such a powerful

4420
02:49:05,269 --> 02:49:02,240
thing when we can just be in our

4421
02:49:07,110 --> 02:49:05,279
sobriety and access these states in that

4422
02:49:09,190 --> 02:49:07,120
state and realize that it's all built in

4423
02:49:10,790 --> 02:49:09,200
the neurochemistry is all in our brain

4424
02:49:12,309 --> 02:49:10,800
already and i actually you know when i

4425
02:49:14,469 --> 02:49:12,319
was at duke i studied in neuroscience

4426
02:49:15,670 --> 02:49:14,479
and one of my best friends that i worked

4427
02:49:17,510 --> 02:49:15,680
in a neurobiology lab he's another

4428
02:49:18,790 --> 02:49:17,520
brazilian his name was siddhartha which

4429
02:49:20,550 --> 02:49:18,800
is a great name and he was like

4430
02:49:23,030 --> 02:49:20,560
capoeirista we both practiced capoeira

4431
02:49:25,510 --> 02:49:23,040
together and and he we'd rap about this

4432
02:49:27,510 --> 02:49:25,520
forever his whole thing was he wanted to

4433
02:49:29,030 --> 02:49:27,520
figure out how to activate the

4434
02:49:30,950 --> 02:49:29,040
anandamide that's already in our brain

4435
02:49:33,510 --> 02:49:30,960
so that you don't have to smoke weed you

4436
02:49:35,190 --> 02:49:33,520
know thc is just it's an analog to the

4437
02:49:36,469 --> 02:49:35,200
anandamide it's already endogenously

4438
02:49:39,429 --> 02:49:36,479
produced by the blood that's correct

4439
02:49:41,990 --> 02:49:39,439
that's correct yeah right so so how just

4440
02:49:43,830 --> 02:49:42,000
like dmt just you know exactly massive

4441
02:49:45,670 --> 02:49:43,840
amounts of dmt right but we get those

4442
02:49:48,790 --> 02:49:45,680
those psychedelic amounts come at near

4443
02:49:50,710 --> 02:49:48,800
death right or birth and death um or if

4444
02:49:52,870 --> 02:49:50,720
we have a near-death experience so it's

4445
02:49:54,790 --> 02:49:52,880
fascinating right that that's all in us

4446
02:49:57,269 --> 02:49:54,800
and so all you have to do if you know

4447
02:49:59,590 --> 02:49:57,279
the right way to unlock that which music

4448
02:50:01,429 --> 02:49:59,600
can do by the way so can dance which is

4449
02:50:03,670 --> 02:50:01,439
why that's been used by all peoples

4450
02:50:04,790 --> 02:50:03,680
around the world right eve with no extra

4451
02:50:06,630 --> 02:50:04,800
substances

4452
02:50:08,150 --> 02:50:06,640
and so i feel like that's really the key

4453
02:50:10,230 --> 02:50:08,160
and i really encourage people it's like

4454
02:50:11,590 --> 02:50:10,240
if you can master that and get to that

4455
02:50:13,269 --> 02:50:11,600
state just through the meditation

4456
02:50:14,550 --> 02:50:13,279
through breath work

4457
02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:14,560
you're there you're winning the game

4458
02:50:17,190 --> 02:50:15,920
because ultimately

4459
02:50:18,389 --> 02:50:17,200
and this kind of gets back to what you

4460
02:50:20,710 --> 02:50:18,399
were saying about what do you do when

4461
02:50:22,870 --> 02:50:20,720
you get back to la and there's the city

4462
02:50:24,150 --> 02:50:22,880
it's the piece called integration and

4463
02:50:25,990 --> 02:50:24,160
it's probably the biggest piece that

4464
02:50:27,990 --> 02:50:26,000
people miss when they go to do this kind

4465
02:50:29,590 --> 02:50:28,000
of work is the integration work they

4466
02:50:31,990 --> 02:50:29,600
don't give themselves the time or the

4467
02:50:33,830 --> 02:50:32,000
space to actually integrate now what

4468
02:50:35,030 --> 02:50:33,840
you've just received this jewel you've

4469
02:50:37,510 --> 02:50:35,040
just been given

4470
02:50:40,309 --> 02:50:37,520
and and i i liken it to the analogy of a

4471
02:50:42,309 --> 02:50:40,319
fresc of a painting you just had this

4472
02:50:44,630 --> 02:50:42,319
beautiful painting made right and all

4473
02:50:46,630 --> 02:50:44,640
these oils are on this this canvas that

4474
02:50:49,590 --> 02:50:46,640
was you know you just got blasted this

4475
02:50:51,269 --> 02:50:49,600
amazing canvas you can't just go and put

4476
02:50:52,950 --> 02:50:51,279
your hand across the canvas you

4477
02:50:54,550 --> 02:50:52,960
literally got to give it a little time

4478
02:50:56,309 --> 02:50:54,560
for to set

4479
02:50:58,389 --> 02:50:56,319
otherwise it's just going to become this

4480
02:50:59,910 --> 02:50:58,399
mess of colors and i think it's very

4481
02:51:01,830 --> 02:50:59,920
much like that with with any of this

4482
02:51:03,910 --> 02:51:01,840
work it's like give yourself at least

4483
02:51:06,309 --> 02:51:03,920
some buffer time is you're coming the

4484
02:51:08,710 --> 02:51:06,319
re-entry time before you go back to your

4485
02:51:10,150 --> 02:51:08,720
day-to-day grind of like more important

4486
02:51:11,910 --> 02:51:10,160
almost than the ceremony days is give

4487
02:51:13,830 --> 02:51:11,920
yourself an extra week like your weekend

4488
02:51:16,389 --> 02:51:13,840
ceremony give yourself another week of

4489
02:51:17,990 --> 02:51:16,399
just integrating that ceremony at least

4490
02:51:19,590 --> 02:51:18,000
and actually you need more time but you

4491
02:51:21,990 --> 02:51:19,600
know i know people have day jobs or

4492
02:51:23,429 --> 02:51:22,000
whatever but give that self to yourself

4493
02:51:25,110 --> 02:51:23,439
because it's so important because if you

4494
02:51:26,630 --> 02:51:25,120
don't do that you really are doing

4495
02:51:28,870 --> 02:51:26,640
yourself a disservice and you're more

4496
02:51:30,230 --> 02:51:28,880
than likely actually going to create

4497
02:51:32,230 --> 02:51:30,240
there's the potential to create more

4498
02:51:33,590 --> 02:51:32,240
issues than more harm than good and

4499
02:51:34,630 --> 02:51:33,600
you're going to go right back to the

4500
02:51:36,790 --> 02:51:34,640
cycle

4501
02:51:38,230 --> 02:51:36,800
exactly and and even in a worse place

4502
02:51:40,230 --> 02:51:38,240
because then you like you said you might

4503
02:51:42,230 --> 02:51:40,240
be even more pumped out because you're

4504
02:51:44,070 --> 02:51:42,240
like what am i freaking doing in this

4505
02:51:46,309 --> 02:51:44,080
machine that's right and then you know

4506
02:51:47,750 --> 02:51:46,319
what i find is that because i've done

4507
02:51:49,670 --> 02:51:47,760
this enough

4508
02:51:52,070 --> 02:51:49,680
uh you know you come back after being

4509
02:51:53,429 --> 02:51:52,080
disconnected and you get back to la and

4510
02:51:55,349 --> 02:51:53,439
you know you go through that bummed out

4511
02:51:57,429 --> 02:51:55,359
period in fact you're always you know

4512
02:51:58,550 --> 02:51:57,439
man maybe we should just get a cabin in

4513
02:52:01,510 --> 02:51:58,560
the mountains

4514
02:52:03,990 --> 02:52:01,520
right but totally two days later

4515
02:52:06,550 --> 02:52:04,000
it's all forgotten right you're right

4516
02:52:08,469 --> 02:52:06,560
back into the grind you're right it it

4517
02:52:10,950 --> 02:52:08,479
it becomes a distant memory

4518
02:52:13,190 --> 02:52:10,960
because you have to uh you have to

4519
02:52:15,190 --> 02:52:13,200
participate in everything los angeles

4520
02:52:18,150 --> 02:52:15,200
you can't you can't go against the grain

4521
02:52:19,750 --> 02:52:18,160
here the matrix yeah you won't survive

4522
02:52:20,790 --> 02:52:19,760
you won't survive you're swimming with

4523
02:52:24,230 --> 02:52:20,800
sharks

4524
02:52:25,510 --> 02:52:24,240
and uh and it's just so funny so so what

4525
02:52:26,950 --> 02:52:25,520
do you do you know and that's a great

4526
02:52:28,389 --> 02:52:26,960
ques i think the question is like so

4527
02:52:30,630 --> 02:52:28,399
what do you do and i feel so the

4528
02:52:32,230 --> 02:52:30,640
integration piece is one and then the

4529
02:52:33,750 --> 02:52:32,240
next piece of that is

4530
02:52:35,429 --> 02:52:33,760
find your tribe

4531
02:52:37,750 --> 02:52:35,439
find your community you know there's a

4532
02:52:38,790 --> 02:52:37,760
lot of people now even in la i've

4533
02:52:40,389 --> 02:52:38,800
actually i know a lot of these

4534
02:52:42,389 --> 02:52:40,399
communities they're amazing communities

4535
02:52:45,190 --> 02:52:42,399
there that the

4536
02:52:46,469 --> 02:52:45,200
work in transformational healing arts

4537
02:52:48,870 --> 02:52:46,479
and have

4538
02:52:51,590 --> 02:52:48,880
gatherings and work to kind of keep this

4539
02:52:54,150 --> 02:52:51,600
spirit alive keep our spirits alive and

4540
02:52:56,150 --> 02:52:54,160
activated and juiced up so that we can

4541
02:52:58,230 --> 02:52:56,160
continue to affect change because the

4542
02:53:00,230 --> 02:52:58,240
worst is you you get jaded you get you

4543
02:53:02,150 --> 02:53:00,240
just go right back into the cog you know

4544
02:53:04,070 --> 02:53:02,160
there's a cog in the machine and i think

4545
02:53:06,150 --> 02:53:04,080
the real the real important thing is to

4546
02:53:07,830 --> 02:53:06,160
find your support community your tribe

4547
02:53:09,510 --> 02:53:07,840
and some people do that you know they go

4548
02:53:11,510 --> 02:53:09,520
to transformational festivals you know

4549
02:53:12,790 --> 02:53:11,520
there's a whole there's numerous scenes

4550
02:53:14,710 --> 02:53:12,800
one of the big ones that i recommend

4551
02:53:16,550 --> 02:53:14,720
people check out la has an amazing

4552
02:53:17,750 --> 02:53:16,560
ecstatic dance community and i don't

4553
02:53:19,510 --> 02:53:17,760
know if you're familiar with ecstatic

4554
02:53:21,349 --> 02:53:19,520
dance um

4555
02:53:23,429 --> 02:53:21,359
have you heard of that yes yes of course

4556
02:53:24,710 --> 02:53:23,439
of course okay yeah so so and of course

4557
02:53:27,030 --> 02:53:24,720
you know uh

4558
02:53:28,950 --> 02:53:27,040
all of the disclosure fest guys

4559
02:53:30,550 --> 02:53:28,960
they have an amazing community in la now

4560
02:53:31,830 --> 02:53:30,560
that you know it's a it's a beautiful

4561
02:53:34,150 --> 02:53:31,840
network of people you know it's kind of

4562
02:53:36,309 --> 02:53:34,160
like the mycelial network that are very

4563
02:53:38,950 --> 02:53:36,319
interconnected and create events and

4564
02:53:41,190 --> 02:53:38,960
create conscious kind of gatherings that

4565
02:53:42,389 --> 02:53:41,200
continue to help feed this work that

4566
02:53:44,630 --> 02:53:42,399
we're all doing because i feel like we

4567
02:53:46,630 --> 02:53:44,640
need it if we feel like we're alienated

4568
02:53:48,710 --> 02:53:46,640
and isolated which is what's happening

4569
02:53:51,030 --> 02:53:48,720
to a lot of us and it's so ironic is the

4570
02:53:53,030 --> 02:53:51,040
web as much as it seems to like oh it's

4571
02:53:54,550 --> 02:53:53,040
all interconnected now the web it's like

4572
02:53:56,309 --> 02:53:54,560
we're actually more isolated than ever

4573
02:53:57,750 --> 02:53:56,319
right and kind of disconnected because

4574
02:54:00,469 --> 02:53:57,760
we're just looking at these screens all

4575
02:54:02,790 --> 02:54:00,479
the time and we lose the the empathic

4576
02:54:04,070 --> 02:54:02,800
connection with each other right so i

4577
02:54:05,830 --> 02:54:04,080
feel like it's really important so

4578
02:54:06,870 --> 02:54:05,840
ecstatic dance is amazing community i'm

4579
02:54:09,269 --> 02:54:06,880
actually going to be playing there on my

4580
02:54:11,269 --> 02:54:09,279
tour for the album release um at the

4581
02:54:13,190 --> 02:54:11,279
they have a dome there called the wisdom

4582
02:54:14,710 --> 02:54:13,200
and i'm playing there um just in a

4583
02:54:17,269 --> 02:54:14,720
couple weeks

4584
02:54:19,110 --> 02:54:17,279
wait wait wait wait wait wait the album

4585
02:54:21,510 --> 02:54:19,120
release is when

4586
02:54:23,670 --> 02:54:21,520
oh so the album's dropping march 1st the

4587
02:54:25,269 --> 02:54:23,680
new album which is a live album i

4588
02:54:28,469 --> 02:54:25,279
thought it was i thought it was later on

4589
02:54:29,429 --> 02:54:28,479
in may it's march 1st yeah march 1st in

4590
02:54:31,590 --> 02:54:29,439
a month

4591
02:54:33,590 --> 02:54:31,600
it's yeah yeah it's the pre-release is

4592
02:54:35,110 --> 02:54:33,600
already active it's on my website

4593
02:54:36,630 --> 02:54:35,120
calm so people can already they can

4594
02:54:38,790 --> 02:54:36,640
pre-order it and already start streaming

4595
02:54:40,550 --> 02:54:38,800
one of the songs there tonsing

4596
02:54:42,150 --> 02:54:40,560
which means mother earth and nawaz in

4597
02:54:43,590 --> 02:54:42,160
the aztec tongue

4598
02:54:45,590 --> 02:54:43,600
and there's going to be the rest are all

4599
02:54:47,750 --> 02:54:45,600
going to go live march 1st

4600
02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:47,760
and i'm doing a release tour and on that

4601
02:54:52,710 --> 02:54:50,000
tour we're actually going to be playing

4602
02:54:56,550 --> 02:54:52,720
at in san diego at trilogy um on the

4603
02:54:59,429 --> 02:54:56,560
22nd and then the 2 24th we're in la at

4604
02:55:00,469 --> 02:54:59,439
the wisdom it's called and it's this 360

4605
02:55:02,550 --> 02:55:00,479
dome they're going to be doing this

4606
02:55:04,630 --> 02:55:02,560
amazing projection mapping super

4607
02:55:06,870 --> 02:55:04,640
visionary kind of visuals to go with

4608
02:55:07,830 --> 02:55:06,880
music and this ecstatic dance la

4609
02:55:10,550 --> 02:55:07,840
presents

4610
02:55:12,710 --> 02:55:10,560
and that's on march 24th

4611
02:55:16,309 --> 02:55:12,720
uh that's happening february 24th

4612
02:55:17,670 --> 02:55:16,319
february 24th in three

4613
02:55:19,670 --> 02:55:17,680
this is all the lead up to the album

4614
02:55:21,670 --> 02:55:19,680
launch in march 1st

4615
02:55:24,710 --> 02:55:21,680
then we we go up to san francisco and

4616
02:55:27,030 --> 02:55:24,720
nevada city mata city is the 28th i play

4617
02:55:28,870 --> 02:55:27,040
there at miners foundry that's like the

4618
02:55:31,990 --> 02:55:28,880
night of the album launch and then on

4619
02:55:33,750 --> 02:55:32,000
the first i play in in san francisco at

4620
02:55:35,510 --> 02:55:33,760
oakland sweets ballroom the historic

4621
02:55:37,269 --> 02:55:35,520
ballroom there

4622
02:55:39,269 --> 02:55:37,279
again ecstatic dance presents and so

4623
02:55:41,030 --> 02:55:39,279
this is the ecstatic dance community

4624
02:55:43,190 --> 02:55:41,040
they love what i do because they're used

4625
02:55:45,750 --> 02:55:43,200
to djs and i'm one of the few people

4626
02:55:47,750 --> 02:55:45,760
that come in and do it all live

4627
02:55:49,349 --> 02:55:47,760
and it's pretty epic so if you get to

4628
02:55:51,590 --> 02:55:49,359
experiences anyone in those areas we're

4629
02:55:53,750 --> 02:55:51,600
listening come out because you get to

4630
02:55:55,990 --> 02:55:53,760
really experience what i do which is to

4631
02:55:57,990 --> 02:55:56,000
channel into all of you and like make

4632
02:56:00,150 --> 02:55:58,000
this journey you know to move our body

4633
02:56:02,150 --> 02:56:00,160
and really get into these these spaces

4634
02:56:04,950 --> 02:56:02,160
that we're talking about just using the

4635
02:56:07,510 --> 02:56:04,960
good old technology of the body dance

4636
02:56:10,550 --> 02:56:07,520
and music you know is the entire tour

4637
02:56:12,230 --> 02:56:10,560
schedule up on porangi.com

4638
02:56:13,349 --> 02:56:12,240
yes yes the tour dates are there there's

4639
02:56:14,550 --> 02:56:13,359
going to be a few more dates added the

4640
02:56:16,230 --> 02:56:14,560
ones i just mentioned are going to

4641
02:56:18,309 --> 02:56:16,240
you're getting finalized details so

4642
02:56:19,670 --> 02:56:18,319
that's kind of but that's that those are

4643
02:56:22,070 --> 02:56:19,680
the dates it's going to be march 1st at

4644
02:56:23,429 --> 02:56:22,080
oakland sweets ballroom uh 28th at

4645
02:56:25,190 --> 02:56:23,439
miners foundry and then the other day

4646
02:56:26,389 --> 02:56:25,200
it's already up there i believe

4647
02:56:28,870 --> 02:56:26,399
thank you so much what a great

4648
02:56:30,550 --> 02:56:28,880
conversation tonight i had so much fun

4649
02:56:32,070 --> 02:56:30,560
and you know this is this is what i

4650
02:56:35,030 --> 02:56:32,080
really enjoy

4651
02:56:36,070 --> 02:56:35,040
is when you can combine

4652
02:56:38,710 --> 02:56:36,080
music

4653
02:56:41,510 --> 02:56:38,720
food culture dance

4654
02:56:45,190 --> 02:56:41,520
and ufos

4655
02:56:47,910 --> 02:56:45,200
and ayahuasca all in one conversation we

4656
02:56:49,190 --> 02:56:47,920
all win i i do these are the things that

4657
02:56:51,429 --> 02:56:49,200
interest me

4658
02:56:53,750 --> 02:56:51,439
and it uh it went right there tonight

4659
02:56:54,790 --> 02:56:53,760
thank you so much man great conversation

4660
02:56:56,469 --> 02:56:54,800
you got it jimmy yeah i really

4661
02:56:58,870 --> 02:56:56,479
appreciate you having me on really a

4662
02:57:00,550 --> 02:56:58,880
treat to connect with you more yeah that

4663
02:57:02,230 --> 02:57:00,560
first conversation we had before the the

4664
02:57:05,269 --> 02:57:02,240
big disclosure fest in dc was just like

4665
02:57:07,349 --> 02:57:05,279
a teaser so this is sweet yeah totally

4666
02:57:09,429 --> 02:57:07,359
um let's see

4667
02:57:12,630 --> 02:57:09,439
uh

4668
02:57:15,429 --> 02:57:12,640
rita we're at the end of oh oh oh i see

4669
02:57:18,389 --> 02:57:15,439
what you're saying rita okay actually uh

4670
02:57:21,590 --> 02:57:18,399
pouring stay right there i'm gonna run

4671
02:57:24,070 --> 02:57:21,600
credits but i need to talk to you after

4672
02:57:26,469 --> 02:57:24,080
uh after i sign off so just stay right

4673
02:57:28,950 --> 02:57:26,479
there i'm going to put you on hold okay

4674
02:57:31,670 --> 02:57:28,960
thank you so much thank you so much okay

4675
02:57:34,830 --> 02:57:31,680
let's uh let's wrap this what a great

4676
02:57:38,150 --> 02:57:34,840
show tonight now uh it's it's

4677
02:57:39,830 --> 02:57:38,160
calm at just go to jimmy church radio

4678
02:57:40,950 --> 02:57:39,840
click on the links right there full tour

4679
02:57:43,830 --> 02:57:40,960
schedule

4680
02:57:45,750 --> 02:57:43,840
the the album drops on march 1st so

4681
02:57:47,269 --> 02:57:45,760
it'll all be over right there

4682
02:57:49,110 --> 02:57:47,279
jimmychurchradio.com

4683
02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:49,120
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4684
02:57:53,269 --> 02:57:51,040
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4685
02:57:55,110 --> 02:57:53,279
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4686
02:57:57,349 --> 02:57:55,120
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4687
02:58:00,790 --> 02:57:57,359
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4688
02:58:03,910 --> 02:58:00,800
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4689
02:58:06,230 --> 02:58:03,920
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4690
02:58:08,469 --> 02:58:06,240
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4691
02:58:11,309 --> 02:58:08,479
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4692
02:58:12,950 --> 02:58:11,319
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4693
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4694
02:58:16,710 --> 02:58:14,479
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4695
02:58:18,870 --> 02:58:16,720
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4696
02:58:21,110 --> 02:58:18,880
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4697
02:58:23,269 --> 02:58:21,120
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4698
02:58:25,110 --> 02:58:23,279
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4699
02:58:27,269 --> 02:58:25,120
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4700
02:58:29,830 --> 02:58:27,279
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4701
02:58:33,269 --> 02:58:29,840
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4702
02:58:36,710 --> 02:58:33,279
church radio tomorrow night right here

4703
02:58:39,429 --> 02:58:36,720
author researcher patrick wood

4704
02:58:41,510 --> 02:58:39,439
until tomorrow night i want everybody to

4705
02:58:47,610 --> 02:58:41,520
be safe

4706
02:58:47,620 --> 02:58:51,429
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4707
02:58:51,439 --> 02:58:59,080
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